Posted on 03/11/2003 3:01:59 PM PST by Remedy
A university professor said she was asked to resign for introducing elite students to flaws in Darwinian thought, and she now says academic freedom at her school is just a charade.
During a recent honors forum at Mississippi University for Women (MUW), Dr. Nancy Bryson gave a presentation titled "Critical Thinking on Evolution" -- which covered alternate views to evolution such as intelligent design. Bryson said that following the presentation, a senior professor of biology told her she was unqualified and not a professional biologist, and said her presentation was "religion masquerading as science."
The next day, Vice President of Academic Affairs, Dr. Vagn Hansen asked Bryson to resign from her position as head of the school's Division of Science and Mathematics.
"The academy is all about free thought and academic freedom. He hadn't even heard my talk," Bryson told American Family Radio News. "[W]ithout knowing anything about my talk, he makes that decision. I think it's just really an outrage."
Bryson believes she was punished for challenging evolutionary thought and said she hopes her dismissal will smooth the way for more campus debate on the theory of evolution. University counsel Perry Sansing said MUW will not comment on why Bryson was asked to resign because it is a personnel matter.
"The best reaction," Bryson says, "and the most encouraging reaction I have received has been from the students." She added that the students who have heard the talk, "They have been so enthusiastically supportive of me."
Bryson has contacted the American Family Association Center for Law and Policy and is considering taking legal action against the school.
Fine. Show how evolution, if it were true, would cause heat to flow spontaneously from a cold to a hot object, or, alternatively, would cause the total entropy of the earth plus sun spontaneously to decrease.
Be as technical as you want. I can handle the equations. :-)
Popular on the FR too ?
Please Think,
A lack of credible scientific proof on your part does not mean a closed mind on my part. What your remark probably really means is that you don't really know what you believe in. However I will be very open to your explanation and proof of the transition from invertebrates to vertebrates.
Expectant Regards,
Boiler Plate
So, for example, you're aware of the relationships between the tunicate genome and the vertebrate genome? You know that these point to a common ancestor 550 million years ago?
Certain groups have a vested interest in making sure other ideas never see the light of day. They play the race card, the hate card, the anti-Semite card, the homophobia card (like anyone is afraid of these misfits), the right wing Christian card, the anti-choice (pro death) card, and yes the liberal card all ... in an attempt ---to limit the public's exposure to other ideas.
18 posted on 03/12/2003 5:54 AM PST by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
That ... monopoly is now in serious jeopardy --- by TRUTH!!!
People like Savage can no longer be marginalized...the tide is turning in small ways and I believe these a$$es see it and are doing everything they can...like I have said before...This is like a man drowning....the more hopeless the situation the harder they struggle, which will bring about the end even quicker.
29 posted on 03/12/2003 7:24 AM PST by Ga Rob ("Consensus is the ABSENCE of Leadership" The Iron Lady)
Fine. Show how evolution, if it were true, would cause heat to flow spontaneously from a cold to a hot object, or, alternatively, would cause the total entropy of the earth plus sun spontaneously to decrease.
Be as technical as you want. I can handle the equations.
You imply that I am trying to disprove the theory. My point is that the 2nd Law is an issue for evolutionists rather than creationists. The fact that many evolutionists find it necessary to address the 2nd Law in their defense of evolution demonstrates that.
I don't think this discussion has gotten very technical. This is very basic stuff.
Then you have no point. The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics applies only to closed systems. The Earth's biosphere is not a closed system; it receives energy from the Sun. Therefore, evolution does not defy the Law.
Wrong.
Only because creationists frequently make the stupid and ignorant proposition that the 2nd law somehow forbids evolution. Such as here and here and here. So if I call you a rapist, and you deny it, does that mean that being a rapist is an issue for you, but not for me?
The hatred and malice spread throughout these threads in the name of religion is overwhelming...and you even attack your own with just as much vitriol. That is your testimony and witness, and that is your so-called "fruit of the Spirit". Amazing!
Lee, it's your call of course, but I would urge you to rethink your dedication to a system that mouths the words, "peace" and "love", yet displays such rancor even between members. I rejected all forms of religion years ago and haven't regretted my decision for a moment.
Aaaahh. Noted for future reference, when consensus and democracy replaces scientific method.
I don't have one; sorry. I've seen the name mentioned in connection with Black History month; I'd therefore guess (perhaps unfairly) that he's some mediocrity raised to a near-Einsteinian status on account of racial tokenism.
It wasn't a scientific question. The question of whether evolution is central to biology is something that cannot be tested by observation or experiment; rather it's a matter of opinion, and the opinion of biologists on what constitutes biology is one that should be taken into account.
Even the most avid creationist should admit that the divine coflicts with the rational; the closest the two ever get is when mankind invents new weapons of war to fight over whose god is the biggest or the best.
The U.S. Constitution comes closest to compromise in the precise wording of the 1st Amendment, yet we continue to argue it every day because it doesn't comfort us.
We are imperfect beings who innately imagine perfection, what to do?
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