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To: betty boop
Do you think this makes any difference?

Frankly, no.

I also tend to agree with js1138 (although I readily admit that have not followed every nuance of that discussion) that these personal "experiences" are well within the generative capability of our material brains and indeed may be be self directed to a significant degree. And while that may not make them any less real to the person involved, it limits any real discussion of them to vague analogy and meaningless philosophical noise.

Don't take my comments to be insulting or derisive; it's just that I see no basis for meaningful discussion.

148 posted on 03/06/2003 12:17:17 PM PST by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: balrog666
Don't take my comments to be insulting or derisive; it's just that I see no basis for meaningful discussion.

Well I don't take offense, balrog666, not at all. Just don't bolt for the door yet, okay?

Stick around here a little bit longer please. Unless you have mastered the fine art of self-insulation, such that all you are willing to go on is what you aready know, or think you know.

My happiness consists in you deciding that that is not a tenable strategy in the long run.

In any case, I'm glad to know ya, balrog666.

161 posted on 03/06/2003 5:37:04 PM PST by betty boop
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To: balrog666
these personal "experiences" are well within the generative capability of our material brains and indeed may be be self directed to a significant degree. And while that may not make them any less real to the person involved, it limits any real discussion of them to vague analogy and meaningless philosophical noise.

B6, "to a significant degree?" I appreciate the hedge.

And what is it when functional information that does not come by a process of thought is gained by means of such an experience? And what is it when it is grosly improbable for this information to be gained by means of even intuition (whatever that is)?

194 posted on 03/08/2003 12:32:50 AM PST by unspun (Liberty from responsibility is vice.)
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