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To: betty boop; the_doc
Thank y'all for your posts! Indeed, the condemnation may include human spirits as well. I do not know. My hope that the eternal torment is “targeted” rests with this verse:

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Which precedes the second death description as follows:

And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. – Revelation 20:10-14

It is my hope that the eternity of torment would not apply to those who were deceived.

140 posted on 03/06/2003 11:39:13 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; the_doc
It is my hope that the eternity of torment would not apply to those who were deceived.

Yes Alamo-Girl -- that is my hope as well. Yet would it be accurate to say, for example, that Hitler was deceived? If so, is there any point in such a deception when a person can become morally culpable? I ask that, because it seems we are most easily deceived when the promises we are tantalized with are the things we really do want.

Which is why I am so happy simply to leave the judgment to God. He will save whomever He Will. Maybe even a Hitler -- for all I know. After all, we musn't forget Christ came to redeem sinners.

146 posted on 03/06/2003 12:02:47 PM PST by betty boop
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