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To: dcwusmc
Your "rights" to dictate how a private business owner runs his or her business are non-existent, period.

This is a horribly naive statement. You DO realize that, don't you?

I repeat (since you people insist on repeating the same hollow arguments), if you want to argue that health ordinances are "unconstitutional," that a restaurant has no obligation to follow local ordinances in the storage and preparation of food, or the maintenance of restrooms, or requiring employees to wash their hands, then you may go ahead and complain all you want.

If you want to say that it is absolutely forbidden to prohibit public sex in a restaurant, that is your privilege.

But you are just spitting into the wind.

The fact is that it is OUR right to propose a ban on smoking in places of public accomodation. And further, it is YOUR right to oppose such laws.

You have NO basis for saying that such laws can't be considered, however, because we DO have democratic rule in this country.

I support your right to oppose these ordinances, and encourage you to make your feelings known to your local officials who might be considering them.

But you must know that I and people like me will speak out IN FAVOR of these ordinances because we are tired of having to pay the consequences for YOUR bad choices.

I don't want to drive on the road with someone who is drunk, and I don't want to have to share a restaurant with someone who is so boorish and rude that they don't care if they are poisoning ME right along with themselves.

367 posted on 03/03/2003 5:30:44 PM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
I don't want to drive on the road with someone who is drunk, and I don't want to have to share a restaurant with someone who is so boorish and rude that they don't care if they are poisoning ME right along with themselves.

Great - I don't care how insulting you are in your comments - just knowing that I won't have to encounter you and your kind anywhere I go just makes my day!!!!!

371 posted on 03/03/2003 6:00:15 PM PST by Gabz (anti-smokers speak with forked tongue.)
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To: Illbay
We live in a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, much to your disdain... which means that the CONSTITUTION for the United States lays down the law for GOVERNMENT to follow, at ALL levels. The Constitution is a chain binding government, which means that there can be no such violations of PROPERTY RIGHTS (those pesky things that allow one person to own and CONTROL property as he does his own life). You have ZERO property rights in MY business. None whatsoever. If you don't like how I run my household or my business, TOUGH. If I am running a restaurant, I will run it to the highest levels of sanitation and food storage/prep/taste. Why? Not because of your pitiful attempts at getting LAWS passed. Simply because it is in my interest to have a clean place where the customer base I want will be happy to keep coming back to... making my customers ill will, in a free market and free society, assure that my doors will be closed more surely than the most stringent laws you can get passed... because an inspector can be and often is bribed. Sick customers, on the other hand, cannot be bribed.

I do, however, give you points for consistency. You are a statist thug clean to the bone. If only there were justice in the world... then the folks we read about at places like this would be your ilk.

374 posted on 03/03/2003 6:17:03 PM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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