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To: Poser
I know this group. I took part in discussing the ideas they had, including Sorens, at the early point when they only had about 200 members. Momentum is gaining, they have a few thousand members I think now, but the problem is that they're not a group made of Libertarians, they are a loose group of self-proclaimed Anarchists and Communists among many other little factions of politics. Some of them want to ultimately secede from the USA.

They can't even decide on a fair voting system to use when deciding on which state to "overrun", let alone which state and how. They'll cause a little hoopla, I'm sure, but it's doomed to become what they despise. The political rift-raft that join the cause will jump ship before anything politically substantial on a state level is achieved.
23 posted on 02/23/2003 12:04:21 PM PST by Hadean
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To: Hadean
"they are a loose group of self-proclaimed Anarchists and Communists".

Really? I've spent a bunch of time visiting their web site and discussion groups and have not seen either Anarchist or Communists there. There are a lot of self proclaimed libertarians and Constitutionalists. I surprised at the hostility to their project evidenced here. Here are a bunch of people who want to "roll back liberal programs", theoretically a goal of Free Republic (though this place has lost a lot of focus as its grown). They aim to do this completely by working within the US political system, peacefully. They are willing to move their families to help achieve this. In all of this I don't see anything that deserves the heavy scorn.

What's your plan. Tax rates are near 50% for high wage earners. We continue to be forced to contribute to the Social Security ponzi scheme. In my state the government is near broke from massive overspending from everything for mental health programs for drug addicts to building airial trams for a local hospital. We just elected another Democrat governor. I think the idea of trying to have *SOME* state with less government is a good one. In fact I think it's happening without the planning of this group. Conservatives and Libertarians are leaving places like Mass. and NY that are completely hostile to their views. Why live in a state with horrible gun laws and taxes when you can find one thats better.

Anyway, check it out for yourself. Here's the web site:


24 posted on 02/23/2003 1:18:04 PM PST by Jack Black
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