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Conservatives Fight Over Islam
NewsMax.com ^ | Feb. 20, 2003 | Wes Vernon

Posted on 02/20/2003 4:19:54 PM PST by TLBSHOW

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To: Howlin
See how fast God answers my prayers?
261 posted on 02/20/2003 10:11:02 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Do you know why o'reilly interviewed the guy and hammered him on his show in the fall of 2001?

9/11. Sami Al Arian has been around and operating for many years, and his actions have been no secret to the FBI. He's got very good political connections, most notably to David Bonior via his son Abdullah. The entire left-wing academia/media establishment have been very vocal and very effective in defending him.

Think about him in a similar way to the Sinn Fein, the supposed "political, non-violent" wing of the IRA. He's a front man who raises funds and schmoozes with the pols to give the "fighters" some room to work. Fortunately, 9/11 stripped him of much of his political cover, and gave the FBI the push it needed to shut him down. And it's high time.

262 posted on 02/20/2003 10:11:09 PM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
What a pathetic sorry situation. I could not believe it when the news reported the guy was the LEADER of the north american whatever it is.

I have to admit I was surprised by that myself - I knew he was a player, but I didn't know he was that much of a high roller.

263 posted on 02/20/2003 10:13:35 PM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: Jael
Nobody really, just some Islamic terrorist leader who along with fellow-travelers, ingratiated his way into Republican circles and this White House with the help of an idiot, Grover Norquist, who is now fending off his overdue firing by slinging leftist-style racism charges at his accusers.
264 posted on 02/20/2003 10:15:25 PM PST by dagnabbit
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To: Jael
I think I have missed something. Who was arrested today?

You best go read up on it. Eight indictments, including a professor from Florida who TLBSHOW and Fred Mertz are trying to paint as a friend of President Bush. Neither will acknowledge that it was his administration's DOJ that put together the indictments.

265 posted on 02/20/2003 10:15:47 PM PST by cyncooper (God Be With President Bush)
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To: CFC__VRWC
I remember reading boniors' name on a list of donors somewhere today. I didn't bookmark it.. Doesn't the FBI, or Secret service brief Norquist on the backgrounds of contacts etc?
266 posted on 02/20/2003 10:16:01 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops....)
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To: CFC__VRWC
Steve Emerson on MSNBC was floored by the indictment. It was VERY detailed!
267 posted on 02/20/2003 10:16:44 PM PST by Howlin
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catpaws' thread: Tampa Tribune Series Exposed USF Ties To Terrorism (Sami al-Arian)
268 posted on 02/20/2003 10:17:11 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops....)
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Fortunately, 9/11 stripped him of much of his political cover, and gave the FBI the push it needed to shut him down. And it's high time.

I'm looking at this and don't like the way it came out at all. I'm glad that the FBI has finally gotten this guy, but am enraged that it took 9/11 to make it possible. Way too high a price to pay to lock him up. I apologize to anyone who may have taken offense.

269 posted on 02/20/2003 10:19:06 PM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: dagnabbit
Nobody really, just some Islamic terrorist leader

There were EIGHT indictments today that pertain to this particular investigation.

Your characterization of the professor as close to Republicans is completely unfounded and ignores the reality of this administration's DOJ putting the indictments together.

270 posted on 02/20/2003 10:19:54 PM PST by cyncooper (God Be With President Bush)
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To: Howlin
"Do a search on Catspaw"

PS: I got your ping to that thread too. I did check it out and was going to go thru all the links later.

271 posted on 02/20/2003 10:20:25 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops....)
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To: cyncooper
I think he forgot his sarcasm tag??
272 posted on 02/20/2003 10:21:05 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
They said today on the news that he has been known about since 1984.
273 posted on 02/20/2003 10:22:49 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: dagnabbit
Certainly would like to see who pays Grover's bills. Wonder if he's registered to lobby for anyone we should know about, all things considered.
274 posted on 02/20/2003 10:24:28 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Howlin said it was put together a long time ago. If it was, the President should have been told. :( I'm shocked that he wasn't.

From what I understand many had a good idea but they couldn't nail him for whatever reason .. after 9/11 and the patriot act, it seems they could get more on him which is what lead to the indictments

O'Reilly even mentioned tonight that the Professor was very smooth and that if you didn't know his background and followed him, one would never tell what he was up to

275 posted on 02/20/2003 10:24:55 PM PST by Mo1 (DC Chapter .. Patriots Rally for America IV .. on Saturday, March 1st)
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To: Jael
Back to start trouble again?
276 posted on 02/20/2003 10:28:22 PM PST by Mo1 (DC Chapter .. Patriots Rally for America IV .. on Saturday, March 1st)
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To: Jael
Who knows? The House of Saud is always good for picking up tabs around DC (and San Diego). But that's just speculation, of course. It's not like there's a photo of anything going on between Grover and the robed ones.
277 posted on 02/20/2003 10:30:10 PM PST by dagnabbit
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Doesn't the FBI, or Secret service brief Norquist on the backgrounds of contacts etc?

I certainly hope they do. I don't know enough to decide about Gaffney and Norquist - all I've seen so far indicates that these two are having a little p!ssing match about something that may not even be related to what they're claiming it's all about. All I've heard about it comes from the two of them (hardly uninterested parties) and a Newsmax story (a source which is rapidly losing credibility with me). Until I see or hear something more substantial, I'm reserving judgement.

278 posted on 02/20/2003 10:31:25 PM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: dagnabbit
Yes, a photo would be bad.
279 posted on 02/20/2003 10:32:01 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Turn on MSNBC!
280 posted on 02/20/2003 10:35:43 PM PST by Howlin
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