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Conservatives Fight Over Islam
NewsMax.com ^ | Feb. 20, 2003 | Wes Vernon

Posted on 02/20/2003 4:19:54 PM PST by TLBSHOW

Conservatives Fight Over Islam

Wes Vernon, NewsMax.com

Thursday, Feb. 20, 2003

WASHINGTON – A fierce, nearly three-week running battle of accusations and counter-accusations between two conservative icons has brought to the front burner a long-festering debate among President Bush’s supporters on how far the White House should go in seeking Islamic support.

Frank Gaffney, president of the Center for Security Policy and a former assistant secretary of defense in the Reagan administration, has accused two White House officials – Ali Talbah and his predecessor Sukhail Khan – of putting President Bush in the company of “people who have made no secret of their sympathy for terrorists, provided them financial support, excused their murderous attacks and/or sought to impede the prosecution of the war against them.” Gaffney reiterated these charges in his Washington Times column Tuesday.

Gaffney’s initial comment in this flap came at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference on Jan. 31.

His remarks sparked a stinging rebuttal from Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform and one-time confidant of Newt Gingrich when the latter was speaker of the House.

“There is no place in the conservative movement for racial prejudice, religious bigotry or ethnic hatred,” Norquist told Gaffney in a Feb. 5 letter. He went on to accuse his fellow conservative of attacking each of the two White House officials because of their Muslim faith.

Norquist then banished Gaffney from further attendance at his influential coalition meetings that he holds every Wednesday, pending an accepted apology to Tulbah and Sukhail. He added, “It is important that we, as conservatives, stand up against bigotry, racism, and religious hatred whenever it raises its ugly head.”

Gaffney replied with a three-and-a-half page single-spaced letter to Norquist that offered no apology. Gaffney not only refused to apologize but also cited chapter and verse of quotes from radical Islamic fundamentalists (Wahhabists) who had been received cordially at the White House.

He also stressed that he had taken pains to “express distinction between such Islamists, and what is, I believe, the majority of Muslims in this country whom the former [Wahhabists] are determined to recruit, intimidate, and dominate through a variety of techniques.”

The CSP boss took Norquist to task for his involvement with Islamic Institute, through which, Gaffney argued, Norquist and his associates had been instrumental in “promoting and facilitating Wahabbis’ access to the executive and legislative branches of government” and thereby “could prove politically damaging and strategically detrimental to our cause and the well-being of our country.”

Norquist says Islamic Institute “was formed to promote within the Muslim world the fact that the Koran and Islam are perfectly consistent with a free and open society.”

In an interview with NewsMax.com, Norquist said he wrote his letter because the two young White House Muslims whom Gaffney criticized were merely underlings carrying out decisions made by more senior White House officials.

“He decided to single out the kid who was a Muslim in both cases, even though the people making decisions are Presbyterians and Catholics, not Muslims,” the ATR president said.

In his latest column, Gaffney reports that one Muslim representative in a group visiting the Oval Office just days after 9/11, Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, had said two days before the attack: “This country is facing a terrible fate. This country stands condemned.”

Why FBI Couldn’t Find Him

When FBI agents visited Yusuf’s home, they were stunned to learn from his wife that he was unavailable because he was with the president.

However, Norquist, while “not vouching for anyone,” said the Muslims who had access to the president passed muster with the Secret Service and the FBI or they wouldn’t have been there.

“If they were a security risk, not if they said something stupid, if they were a security risk or a problem ... the Secret Service would pull them out,” he said.

Gaffney describes as “bizarre” FBI Director Robert Mueller’s decision to speak to the American Muslim Council last year despite that group’s “long record of activities hostile to the Bush administration’s prosecution of the war on terror.”

Walking the sometimes unclear lines between peace-loving Muslim Americans and those who pose a threat is a dilemma symbolized by the bitter dispute between Gaffney and Norquist, two well-known conservatives in the Bush constituency.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: cair; gaffney; norquist; yusuf
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To: Fred Mertz; TLBSHOW; Howlin
Todd will be correct again.

Bwahahahahahaha.........Talk about comic relief.

101 posted on 02/20/2003 8:15:28 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Fred Mertz
Todd will be correct again

So I should put you down as saying Bush and al-Arian were personal friends?

Fine by me.

102 posted on 02/20/2003 8:15:37 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
"Bush has very wisely exploited divisions in the Muslim community to isolate the radicals and terrorists."

And for that he has been called a traitor and it has been insinuated that he is in bed with terrorists!

The people who say these things about Bush are totally clueless.

103 posted on 02/20/2003 8:16:21 PM PST by Jorge
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To: TLBSHOW
Where is THE PROOF that they are friends.

After all, as I said, we have ALL seen the pictures of you with Ann Coulter and we KNOW you're not friends with her.

104 posted on 02/20/2003 8:16:35 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Guess what sherlock from the looks of the way Grover calls people racist he best back it up!
105 posted on 02/20/2003 8:17:03 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Fred Mertz
He is a liar.
106 posted on 02/20/2003 8:17:32 PM PST by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW
how President Bush can even listen to this guy makes me sick!

Wanna guess what makes me sick???

Go ahead, I'll bet you can.

107 posted on 02/20/2003 8:17:53 PM PST by cyncooper (God Be With President Bush)
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To: Jorge
The people who say these things about Bush are totally clueless

Say hello to TLBSHOW.

108 posted on 02/20/2003 8:18:20 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Your the biggest liar here.
109 posted on 02/20/2003 8:18:31 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: TLBSHOW
Charges of racism (and "hatred" and "bigotry") have replaced patriotism as the last refuge of a scoundrel.
110 posted on 02/20/2003 8:18:42 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Howlin; Fred Mertz
Have you noticed how Fred's only function on FR is to latch on to mostly one freeper and ride behind him or her like a clown cleaning horse crap at the circus?

He seems only capable of throwing out a juvenile remark here and there and waiting for his freeper-du-jour to leave another pile for pickup.

What a pathetic man !!!!!!!

111 posted on 02/20/2003 8:20:19 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Howlin
So I should put you down as saying Bush and al-Arian were personal friends?

You are so obtuse.

You should work for the DNC. LOL

112 posted on 02/20/2003 8:22:19 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: TLBSHOW
Not to mention the one just busted today was a friend of The Presidents.

I see this thread is in the Smokey Backroom, so I'll just say it...

You are either dense or lying.

113 posted on 02/20/2003 8:22:38 PM PST by cyncooper (God Be With President Bush)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Wow, I qualified for 7 exclamation points. Thanks.

BTW, who are you?

114 posted on 02/20/2003 8:24:51 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
I think she does work for the liberals!
115 posted on 02/20/2003 8:25:04 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: cyncooper; TLBSHOW
You are either dense or lying

LOL........I think both.

116 posted on 02/20/2003 8:25:20 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: TLBSHOW
as I said to you its about Grover not anyone else.

BULL .. It's about Gaffney being pissed off and Grover

And because of that .. the both of you are trying to bring down the President ... WHY TODD????

117 posted on 02/20/2003 8:25:52 PM PST by Mo1 (DC Chapter .. Patriots Rally for America IV .. on Saturday, March 1st)
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To: cyncooper
You'd be best advised to listen to TLB on occasion.

You might learn something.
118 posted on 02/20/2003 8:26:35 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
I love it when I can tell that your getting upset. You are so predictable. I hope you're not a poker player.
119 posted on 02/20/2003 8:27:28 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Fred Mertz
"You'd be best advised to listen to TLB on occasion.

You might learn something."

He's a good bad example.
120 posted on 02/20/2003 8:28:09 PM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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