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Seize marijuana market from criminal class
The Free Lance-Star (Fredericksburg, VA) ^ | 2/9/2003 | Kevin B. Zeese

Posted on 02/11/2003 6:49:57 AM PST by MrLeRoy

WASHINGTON--A friend recently remarked to me, "Alcohol is the original date-rape drug." That's very sadly true. And it's why I found it hypocritical that the national drug czar's new ad equating marijuana use with teen pregnancy should debut during the Super Bowl, in which beer and sex were the dominant advertising themes.

Teen drinking is the bigger problem, both in sheer numbers as well as health risks, yet the federal agency overseeing drug-control policy ignores it. An antiteen drinking commercial would have been a powerful counterpoint during that game; the antipot ad came off as a clumsy attempt to maintain beer's market share.

These ads are emblematic of the government's overall war on marijuana. Since marijuana was first federally outlawed in 1937, prohibition has had the perverse effect of making marijuana more popular, particularly among youth and the counterculture. Our government insists on staying the course even though there is no evidence that criminalizing marijuana has ever reduced its use, let alone its trafficking. Meanwhile, the focus on marijuana diverts attention away from more serious problems.

Historian Barbara Tuchman once defined folly in government as the perverse persistence in bad policy in spite of evidence of its failure and the existence of a reasonable alternative.

Marijuana prohibition is a clear example of this. Reports by governmental commissions in several countries point out its failure and call for drastic changes, from decriminalization (for example, the Shafer Commission in 1972) to legalization (a Canadian Senate committee report in 2002). So many of our political leaders have tried marijuana that it becomes news if a politician ever denies any "youthful indiscretions." And yet, still prohibition persists. Why?

Some argue that marijuana is a dangerous drug so it must be banned. Yet we've decided that the dangers of alcohol and tobacco present an acceptable risk, so let's compare:

Alcohol overdoses kill more than 15,000 people each year in the United States, and alcohol-related deaths push the toll up to more than 100,000 annually; marijuana, according to the scientific evidence, has not racked up a single overdose death in centuries of use.

Alcohol use is involved in 40 percent of the violent crimes committed in the United States annually; marijuana is associated with meditative, peaceful behavior, while violence in the marijuana trade is the result of prohibition, not the drug.

Tobacco use is credited with more than 400,000 deaths annually, according to the Surgeon General; in spite of decades of trying, the federal government has still not found anyone dying from marijuana use.

Clearly, marijuana prohibition is not justified by health concerns.

Prohibitionists say we don't need to legalize yet another drug because the ones we have do too much damage. That argument misses the point in many ways.

First, marijuana is widely used, legal or not. At least 21 million people used it last year, according to the federal Household Survey. (The real number is much higher, possibly 40 million; government surveys of illegal behavior are not noted for their accuracy and are widely believed to underreport the true totals.)

More important, marijuana is not simply another substance, it's a less dangerous--not safe, but less dangerous--alternative to drugs we already make available. And, if regulated as we do with alcohol, there would be guarantees of marijuana purity as well as regulation of potency, something the illegal market does not provide.

Prohibitionists counter: Ending marijuana prohibition "sends the wrong message" that legalizing drugs supposedly connotes societal approval of drug abuse. Oh, really? Then we need to bring back alcohol prohibition because, by that logic, legal alcohol sends the message that alcoholism and alcohol abuse are OK. Obviously, that's not true. And we're not going back to alcohol prohibition. We need to turn in a different direction.

It makes no sense to continue threatening people with arrest over their simple use of marijuana. A regulated system takes control of the marijuana market away from the criminals. This means age limits, just as we have for alcohol--drug dealers never ask for ID.

As for the "gateway" theory? Research shows that alcohol and tobacco are more likely suspects than marijuana. A recent study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that early alcohol and tobacco use were strong indicators of later drug use. That study's authors contended that the link between marijuana and other illegal drugs may be due solely to marijuana's illegality, nothing more.

A regulated marijuana market--similar to alcohol but a little more restricted (no Super Bowl marijuana promotions, for example)--is workable. And selling U.S.-grown marijuana through state-run outlets similar to Virginia's ABC stores could bring in millions in tax revenue to states and the federal government.

So why does prohibition persist? As Tuchman put it in her book "The March of Folly": "Wooden-headedness, the source of self-deception, is a factor that plays a remarkably large role in government. It consists in assessing a situation in terms of preconceived fixed notions while ignoring or rejecting any contrary signs. It is acting according to wish while not allowing oneself to be deflected by the facts."

Seventy years ago, we ended the tragic mistake that was alcohol prohibition. The time has now come to end the folly of marijuana prohibition.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: banglist; libertarians; losersareusers; usersarelosers; wodlist
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To: CWOJackson
I get a kick out of stirring the pot(heads) and watching them go ballistic in reply.
So nice of you to directly state that you have ulterior motives and an agenda. Thanks.
181 posted on 02/11/2003 2:27:10 PM PST by philman_36
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To: KEVLAR; CWOJackson
So other than annoying others here, what is your purpose?
He's already let the cat out of the bag.
I get a kick out of stirring the pot(heads) and watching them go ballistic in reply.
When someone "goes ballistic" in their reply what happens to the threads? Abuse button pushed and Smokey Back Room, here it comes.
182 posted on 02/11/2003 2:34:34 PM PST by philman_36
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To: CWOJackson
It's no different then any of the other hundreds of similar threads you people post, with the same old arguments, etc. Most of which end up being pulled or moved to the smokey backroom...
And why does that happen?
I get a kick out of stirring the pot(heads) and watching them go ballistic in reply.
You apparently have an agenda to get the threads sent there.
You're real blatant. It's a concerted effort even...
Actually I'm just a volunteer. We take turns coming on to your threads...

You are one dense hombre. Thanks for all of your admissions.
The court of public opinion should find you and "WE" guilty.

183 posted on 02/11/2003 2:46:27 PM PST by philman_36
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To: CWOJackson
I actually enjoy the society I live in. Seems you folks don't enjoy that society much though.
Which society do you live in?
184 posted on 02/11/2003 2:55:02 PM PST by philman_36
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To: CWOJackson
My, the little vermin are particularly active today. Two threads gone so far.
You shouldn't call yourself or your "WE" vermin no matter how active ya'll have been today.
185 posted on 02/11/2003 3:05:31 PM PST by philman_36
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To: f.Christian
Are you a volunteer too?
186 posted on 02/11/2003 3:07:14 PM PST by philman_36
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To: CWOJackson
Yawn.
Trolling for flies?
187 posted on 02/11/2003 3:10:06 PM PST by philman_36
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To: *libertarians; *Wod_list; *bang_list
Bump for topical content.
188 posted on 02/11/2003 3:11:38 PM PST by coloradan
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To: Dane
Uh dude that "one pony show" you call the "leftist(Libertarian) counterculture of the 60's" produced Bill and Hillary Clinton, Jane Fonda, Barney Frank, Jerry Nadler, Nancy Pelosi, the SDS, the Weather Underground, etc.etc., shall I go on, and ruin your infatuation with the counterculture of the 60's?
Your point?
And as is evidenced all too clearly you're the one infatuated with the counterculture of the 60's, not I.
If you weren't you wouldn't keep going there. You have some need to regurgitate 40 year old stuff.
Welcome to 2003.
189 posted on 02/11/2003 3:16:18 PM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36
And as is evidenced all too clearly you're the one infatuated with the counterculture of the 60's, not I. If you weren't you wouldn't keep going there. You have some need to regurgitate 40 year old stuff. Welcome to 2003.

Welcome to 2003 also. It seems that you want us to forget what the 60's counterculture bred, Bill and Hillary Clinton, the SDS, the weather underground.

JMO, but it seems that you think that the 60's counterculture mantra of drugs, sex, and rock and roll needs another chance only that you Libertarians on FR will make it "work".

Just have one thing to say to you, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

190 posted on 02/11/2003 3:27:32 PM PST by Dane
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To: philman_36
Are you a volunteer too?


186 posted on 02/11/2003 3:07 PM PST by philman_36

yyz shot // bit 1st . . . some kind of virus - - - freeper madness !
191 posted on 02/11/2003 3:41:49 PM PST by f.Christian (( Orcs of the world : : : Take note and beware. ))
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To: philman_36
Ballistic replies should be reserved for such time as they can be delivered in person.
192 posted on 02/11/2003 3:44:33 PM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: Dane
It seems...
It seems...
It seems that you're drawing your own conclusions no matter what I say.
Just have one thing to say to you, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. George Santayana
I've got three words to say to you...Alcohol prohibition failed!
193 posted on 02/11/2003 4:05:04 PM PST by philman_36
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To: f.Christian
yyz shot // bit 1st . . . some kind of virus - - - freeper madness !
Incoherence // insipidity . . . some kind of illness - - - mental incompetence !
194 posted on 02/11/2003 4:09:19 PM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36
Incoherence // insipidity . . . some kind of illness - - - mental obsession === physical addiction === whack politics // crusade !



195 posted on 02/11/2003 5:14:40 PM PST by f.Christian (( Orcs of the world : : : Take note and beware. ))
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To: f.Christian
Incoherence // insipidity . . . some kind of illness - - - mental obsession === physical addiction === whack politics // crusade !

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196 posted on 02/11/2003 6:23:58 PM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: CWOJackson
Bad behavior is pretty much all they've got.
197 posted on 02/11/2003 7:05:41 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: philman_36
Working on getting it pull now, it seems.
198 posted on 02/11/2003 7:26:52 PM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: philman_36
Looks like I found one.
199 posted on 02/11/2003 11:09:33 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Roscoe
Yep, you have to give them credit for that.
200 posted on 02/11/2003 11:13:16 PM PST by CWOJackson
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