Seize marijuana market from criminal class

The Free Lance-Star (Fredericksburg, VA) ^ | 2/9/2003 | Kevin B. Zeese

[jayef]

Yep. It drives me crazy allright. Keep on wasting money and wasting lives. You'll stamp out drug use one day. I'm sure of it. You are winning. No doubt about it.

[bvw]

Don't you think you might be giving all "chiefs" a bad name, dude? Whoi is that great female country and western singer who sang "I fall to pieces..."? Anyway, that's what your arguments remind me of -- falling to pieces, self-inconsistent, etc, etc.

Look, I disgree with your stance that drug laws are good -- especially WRT federal drug laws. The exact analog is alchohol, and how we, the US of A, have carefully tread the line of federal regard for alchohol and alchohol use. From the whiskey rebellion, to the temperance movement, to *Constitutional* prohibition, to that amendment's rescinding. The LAW was respected.

You seem to hold that the drugs (all sorts of which, btw) that are federally banned are so dangerous that the clear terms and history of the Constitution shoould be ignored if that is what is needed to ban them. And you also have held that discussion counter to that theory is trivial, ignorant, unwise.

But you haven't marshalled much more than cyncism, spite and ad hominem to make your arguments -- and any fact or logic you do bring forward, gets buried under that poor packaging. You can do better, or at least change your screen name -- say to "CitizenJackson".

[avenir]

Thank God for small miracles.

You're good.

And, fortunately, wrong.

[MrLeRoy]

To back to it up, or back out with your tail between your legs.

He thinks his windbaggery can save him. If he cares nothing for the opinion of decent people, he's right.

[CWOJackson]

Wearing the uniform doesn't automatically entitle anyone to respect. I hate to break this to you, but the enlisted folks saluted you because it was regulation and you were an officer...not because they respected you. And with your attitude I doubt it was often more than a regulation salute.

A lesson you obviously never learned is that respect is earned, it's not an entitlement.

[William Terrell]

I've already acknowledged your brilliant victory in Nevada

If the anti-drug war momentum were not gaining, the issue wouldn't come up in any state for any reason, like the lack of efforts a decade ago. As it was, a suprisingly sizable percentage of the population supported the measure. Only through direct, personal intervention of the drug czar and a lot of public money did it fail.

[CWOJackson]

"If he cares nothing for the opinion of decent people, he's right."

Not a danger on one of your threads.

[CWOJackson]

"Don't you think you might be giving all "chiefs" a bad name, dude?"

No...I don't know of any sympathetic to your cause. We had one once but he popped positive on the pee test. He didn't get any high fives from his fellow chiefs when he was court martialed.

[jayef]

I always find this argument so amusing. As if God follows the CSA. Like there's a special place in hell for those of us who smoke marijuana, but all the alcohol users get to pass though the pearly gates. God has some scale of vice where 3 joints = a line of coke = 1/2 tab of acid = tab of x, etc. Not only that, but God has communicated this scale to these morons so that they can decide for the rest of us what is and isn't moral and dole out appropriate punnishments here on earth. If it weren't so sad it would be funny.

[jayef]

I always find this argument so amusing. As if God follows the CSA. Like there's a special place in hell for those of us who smoke marijuana, but all the alcohol users get to pass though the pearly gates. God has some scale of vice where 3 joints = a line of coke = 1/2 tab of acid = tab of x, etc. Not only that, but God has communicated this scale to these morons so that they can decide for the rest of us what is and isn't moral and dole out appropriate punnishments here on earth. If it weren't so sad it would be funny.

[CWOJackson]

Yes, it came up in Nevada and despite the full court press by your side went down to utter defeat. Currently it's on a local initiative in Columbia, MO...being pushed by the same crowd that's leading the anti-war demonstrations out there according to local Freepers who have been counter freeping them.

With this momentum you folks should have a drug free state in 20-30 years.

[E Rocc]

the gun rights crowd here

I really don't understand how some members of the gun rights crowd can support the WoSD. They must not realize who's next.

-Eric

[MrLeRoy]

Not a danger on one of your threads.

So you don't think any decent people read these threads? That explains your behavior. I suspect your premise is wrong, though.

[CWOJackson]

My premise is wrong?

Hey dude, it's your free my dope thread in the smokey backroom.

[KEVLAR]

Yes, and you are here stinkin' the place up.

[clamper1797]

Wearing the uniform doesn't automatically entitle anyone to respect. I hate to break this to you, but the enlisted folks saluted you because it was regulation and you were an officer...not because they respected you. And with your attitude I doubt it was often more than a regulation salute.

Actually I was refering the time since I got out and NOT have worn the uniform. If you do NOT have the knowledge or experience of a servicemans respect for another regardless of rank ... my opinion is even more reinforced ....

As far as respect on this thread .. I will submit to you ...SONNY that there is precious little for you.

But that is what you really seeking ... isn't it ... that low opinion of you held by others only confirms the opinion that you have for yourself ... isn't it? Self verification is a powerful urge

I would hate to live in a world filled with anger and self contempt ... such as yours

[E Rocc]

How would drug dealers profit from an end of the WOD?

Well obviously people would continue to buy from the same dealers if drugs were legalized just like they kept buying from bootleggers after the end of Prohibition. This is why Anheuser Busch and Seagrams have such a small share of the market compared to moonshiners and home brewers.

-Eric

[bvw]

There's a logical fallacy, and an indirect ad hominem right there. I'm not saying any officer, warrant officer or serviceman should do drugs -- they are against regs. I'm saying the laws -- the federal laws -- are beyond the Constitutional boundary. That's *your* logical fallacy -- attributing a false idea to me, one I didn't make .

And you just inferred that I'm a drug user -- not only is that far from true -- hell, I can't even *drink* more than a couple of ounces a month anymore -- whether it was true or not it is a spurious form of slander in the category of an "ad hominem" diversion from my actual argument.

[Ken H]

I really don't understand how some members of the gun rights crowd can support the WoSD.

Well, a few of the pro-WOD folks claim that the Second Amendment does not protect the right of citizens to keep and bear arms.

They claim the Second Amendment can be trumped by State gun grabber laws.

[CWOJackson]

Again, respect is earned. It isn't issued with the uniform and it isn't a symbol of rank. As for being held in low opinion on this thread...THANK YOU LORD!

Knowing that you folks have no respect for me is gratifying and mutual. And don't waste your concern on my world...I actually enjoy the society I live in. Seems you folks don't enjoy that society much though.