[dirtboy]

Huh I guess the defeat of the 3 main pro-drug intitatives(in Arizona, Nevada, and Ohio) pushed by the pro-drug lobby and defeated by wide margins last November doesn't mean a thing. The only place where a pro-pot intiative passed was in that "conservative" bastion called San Francisco.

There have been many, many state initiatives regarding pot, some pass, some don't. Several states have decriminalized pot. So state action gives us a range of laws to see what works and what doesn't. But the state initiatives that pass are setting up a challenge to federal usurpation regarding these laws, as the feds are currently ignoring medical marijuana laws in several states, despite the fact that the pot in question does not cross state lines. That, in the end, is the true positive of the entire pot debate - states are fighting to regain their 10th Amendment right to set their own laws regarding matters that do not cross state lines.

I guess the real world isn't allowed to intrude into your tiny but vocal pro-drug mutual admiration society on FR.

I'm not pro-drug, Dane, I'm pro-Constitutional government. If individual states wish to inact pot restrictions, that is their perogative under the 10th. The federal government has no proper authority to inact three-quarters of the laws they force on the American public, pot laws are just one small aspect of that usurpation. But since you have your own agenda that blinds your to emotion instead of reason (a very liberal tendency, mind you), you applaud usupration instead of fighting it.

Once again, better sane than Dane.

[Dane]

That, in the end, is the true positive of the entire pot debate - states are fighting to regain their 10th Amendment right to set their own laws regarding matters that do not cross state lines.

All flowery rhetoric, hiding behind the skirt of the 10th amendment when the true cause of the marijuana lobby is to make pot legal nationwide. Some of pot's biggest boosters on FR stated to me that they "use" medical marijuana as a cover for the cause, basically calling medical patinets, "useful idiots".

You may see a 10th amendment issue, I see stopping the spread of the drug culture in which marijuana use is a big component. You may say you are winning but look at last years election results and the pro-drug lobby lost big time. I know you don't like those facts, but they are the facts.

You can write all the pompous "holier than thou" rhetoric you want but the fight against drug abuse and validation is a here and now issue and considering last year's drubbing the pro-por intitatives took last year, looks like you lost.

Huh if reason means accepting a tenet of the modern American left, drug validation, then you can count me out.