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To: IncPen
No matter how many times you deny it, if there's no WOD we're a 'pro-dope' nation.

Were we a 'pro-dope' nation for the century-plus when drugs were legal?

Blaming the problems of addiction on the WOD is a common straw argument on these threads.

No, blaming the problems of the WOD on the WOD is a common sound argument; deaths of innocents in drug-turf wars, enrichment of criminals, and corruption of the justice system by enriched criminals are all caused by the WOD just as they were caused by Prohibition.

But protecting my rights from the certain effects of a stoned society may necessarily involve curtailing what you believe to be 'your rights'.

His rights include every act that doesn't violate somebody else's rights. Which "effects of a stoned society" violate your rights?

347 posted on 01/31/2003 5:41:54 AM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: MrLeRoy
As I said earlier in the thread, it's refreshing to see you're not limiting your posts to one (overworn) topic.

Were we a 'pro-dope' nation for the century-plus when drugs were legal?

No, we didn't need a WOD until the liberal left began their campaign to dismantle this country with the 'free love' and 'pro dope' movements in the 50s. Funny how that coincides with the 'red menace', and the Cold War, no?

The paycheck for free love is rampant STDs, AIDS and 40 million abortions.

The paycheck for the pro-dope agenda is broken families, crime, homelessness and neglected children. That's what we've got when we say we don't want drugs. You're positing that it will be better if we just let everyone have drugs. That's preposterous.

No, blaming the problems of the WOD on the WOD is a common sound argument; deaths of innocents in drug-turf wars, enrichment of criminals, and corruption of the justice system by enriched criminals are all caused by the WOD just as they were caused by Prohibition.

The addictive characteristics of drugs and alcohol are dissimilar physiologically. Cocaine, marijuana and heroin are not comparable to alcohol, which has been synthesized widely in the human species for thousands of years. You're making an apples and oranges argument.

I'm saying the root effects of 'free love' and 'free dope' is a distinct loss of humanity (read: crime, neglected children, abortion, divorce).

For a government (which is made up of people) to throw in the towel on its own citizens is an abomination.

His rights include every act that doesn't violate somebody else's rights. Which "effects of a stoned society" violate your rights?

At a minimum: a PREVENTABLE loss of productivity, increase in welfare and disability recipients, unsafe streets with stoners and addicts driving, higher insurance costs, higher prescription drug costs, child addicts, neglected children, increases in violent crime.

If you think the government is intrusive now, wait til the liberals have us all picking up after- and paying for- the remnants of your little utopia.

354 posted on 01/31/2003 7:11:36 AM PST by IncPen ( God as my witness I thought turkeys could fly)
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