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Email President Bush and confront him about his stand for homosexuals
Agape press ^ | 1/26/03 | Tony Horton

Posted on 01/26/2003 6:53:20 PM PST by TonyTheTigger

To: president@whitehouse.gov; vice.president@whitehouse.gov Subject: Email President Bush and confront him about his stand for homosexuals

Dear Mr. President this is what the web page seen by millions will say. I also have a rather large size mailing list I will send this out to.

Email President Bush and confront him about his stand for homosexuals

To: president@whitehouse.gov, vice.president@whitehouse.gov

You will not receive my vote and I will make web pages after web pages exposing you for the fence straddling liar you have become. Ignore this if you want.... I will make good on what I promised you.

If this story is false I will not do what I have said. If I get no response I will take it to mean your guilty.

Bush White House, Clinton White House ... No Difference on Homosexuality

News from Agape Press

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/1/242003b.asp

A former voter for you,

Tony Horton


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To: xzins; MeekMom; TonyTheTigger
.What he did was decide to cave into political pressure...there was nothing wrong with this man or his appointment ..except the pressure groups didn't like him..

It is rather like selling your birthright for a bowl of pottage.

I heard a interesting factoid on the radio today..7 of the 9 Supreme court justices were chosen by Republicans..anyone that thinks that the Republicans are really serious about ending the Federal control of abortion had best guess again...pottage

81 posted on 01/27/2003 9:16:42 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: MeekMom; Corin Stormhands; SpookBrat; P-Marlowe; Revelation 911
Are you saying that only those who don't attend a church can be a Christian??

Where do you attend?
82 posted on 01/27/2003 9:19:27 AM PST by xzins (Prepare Ye the way of the Lord.)
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To: xzins
Putting all prior silliness away...
I do humbly ask you to consider the following thoughts...


***It is a fact of history, that all denominations came into existence many centuries after the time of Jesus Christ. Denominations were unknown during the times that the apostles of Christ lived and wrote the New Testament. Divisions, or denominational tendencies, that is, the tendency for one group of Christians to teach a doctrine different from that taught by another, were known about and experienced during the first century. Contrary to many religionists today, who praise division or denominationalism the apostles who (by the guidance of the Holy Spirit of God) wrote the New Testament condemned denominationalism. Paul, in I Corinthians 3:3-4, has stated, "For you are yet carnal; for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are you not carnal, and walk as men? For while one saith, I am of Paul: and another, I am of Apollos; are you not carnal?". In I Corinthians 1:10, Paul also discussed division, or denominationalism, "I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you: but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgement." (Study also Romans 16:17).

Thus, we can see that there were no denominations in the original New Testament church, indeed, the few small schisms as came into existence were quickly stamped out by the action of the apostles. Denominationalism was neither necessary nor desirable. Then, we must ask, to what church did the Christians of the first century belong? It had to have been the Lord's church or body of Christ that Jesus died to save, that only and no other - Acts 20:28.

It is both reasonable and logical to ask, "Can I join the Lord's church today?" If one could join the Lord's church today, he would not be joining a denomination. The Lord's church is not a denomination nor does it contain denominations. The Lord's church would have all its New Testament markings and would not have those markings identifiable with denominationalism.

The main marking of the Lord's church is that of strict compliance with and submission to the apostle's doctrine as revealed in the New Testament. Creeds or other books (in addition to the Bible) and additional revelations are not needed and are against the teachings of the apostles who wrote in Galatians 1:8-9, "But though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel than that we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." The Bible reveals that all the knowledge that is needed for us to do every good work has already been supplied. Read II Timothy 3:17. Additionally, I Corinthians 4:6 warns us against going beyond that which has been written.

Other markings of the Lord's church are having Christ as its head rather than some earthly person or office; having its headquarters in heaven rather than in some earthly city: and its members using the name of Christian rather than some denominational name. Study Col. 1:18, 3:1, and 3:17.

But, how do men, today enter this pre-denominational church? Simply by doing the same thing as was expected of people in the first century: For the words of the apostles are to all mankind of any race and any century. They are for us.

One first and obvious step is to believe that Jesus is the Christ and that through Him, and Him only, mankind can be saved.

But, contrary to the teachings of man, we must go on beyond this simple belief or acknowledgment. We must be obedient to the commandments of Christ, for Jesus said, "If' you love me, keep my commandments". Obviously we must believe fervently that Jesus is God's Son, our Savior, The Christ. We must be obedient to both the commands of Jesus and those of the apostles. The apostles were told what to write in the Holy Scriptures which are the New Testament, for Jesus promised, "But the comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to you remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you".

There are several things a believer must do before he becomes a member of the Lord's church. One of these is to believe, another is to repent (to turn away from a sinful life) and yet another is to be baptized into Christ for the remission of sins. Few teach baptism for the remission of sins and this requirement is yet another marking of the Lord's church, for Acts 2:38-47 reads, in part, "Then Peter said unto them, Repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins . . . Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls . . . And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved".

Thus, you cannot join the Lord's church in the sense that you join a club or other man-made organization. Through your complete obedience to the will of God you make yourself acceptable to Him. God will then add you to the Lord's church, to this only, and none other. Thus, in this ancient manner it is possible to become a Christian without joining any denomination.


83 posted on 01/27/2003 9:22:53 AM PST by MeekMom (( Please visit CNLGLFG.com))
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
FYI...
People who have repented of past sins, no longer live in them, are redeemed once again.
84 posted on 01/27/2003 9:25:22 AM PST by MeekMom (( Please visit CNLGLFG.com))
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To: MeekMom
Which church do you attend?
85 posted on 01/27/2003 9:25:38 AM PST by xzins (Prepare Ye the way of the Lord.)
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To: MeekMom
Great. However, that doesn't mean that I have to like or respect them. It also doesn't mean that they have a single useful thing to say.
86 posted on 01/27/2003 9:28:14 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (down with anti-American nutcases)
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To: xzins; ultima ratio; MeekMom; Catholicguy; TonyTheTigger
I'm trying to find the thrust of this thread, but it keeps morphing into a "Monty Python" sketch.

FWIW, I think Bush is anti-homosexual. Although for me, no one can stand too strongly against this suicidal abomination that is rooted in childhood molestation, encouraged by adolescent rebellion, and ultimately seen as clever birth control by those who seek the weeding out of the planet.

That said, Bush is pretty busy just now changing geo-politics, making the world safer for our children, and hopefully, moving the world towards a more Judeo-Christian ethos.

To all: Read "Saddam, King of Terror" by Con Coughlin. Regardless of his history, Saddam is a viper that requires beheading.

87 posted on 01/27/2003 9:33:18 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: RnMomof7
WOW!!!
...a cry in the wilderness is heard! LOL
THANK YOU RnMomof7 for posting!

BTW, are you really the Mom of 7?
If so...EEEEEEeeeeekkk!

Being the Mom of 1 keeps me plenty poor! (grin)

88 posted on 01/27/2003 9:35:46 AM PST by MeekMom (( Please visit CNLGLFG.com))
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To: xzins
re: post #82...see post #77
89 posted on 01/27/2003 9:36:45 AM PST by MeekMom (( Please visit CNLGLFG.com))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Read from about #75 to the end. There's a theological position on salvation in there that has me puzzled. What do you think?
90 posted on 01/27/2003 9:37:06 AM PST by xzins (Prepare Ye the way of the Lord.)
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To: MeekMom; RnMomof7; Corin Stormhands; Revelation 911; Dr. Eckleburg
That's a dodge and you know it.

I'm specifically asking you what is the name of the church that you attend? You either have the honesty and courage to answer this question or you don't.
91 posted on 01/27/2003 9:39:41 AM PST by xzins (Prepare Ye the way of the Lord.)
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To: xzins
I fellowship with and share the Lord's Supper with fellow local believers...
I don't know how else to put it to you xzins...
92 posted on 01/27/2003 9:40:37 AM PST by MeekMom (( Please visit CNLGLFG.com))
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
re: post #86

You are always entitled to your opinions Chancellor. (grin)
93 posted on 01/27/2003 9:41:51 AM PST by MeekMom (( Please visit CNLGLFG.com))
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To: MeekMom
Is there a sign out front of the place where you fellowship with local believers?
94 posted on 01/27/2003 9:42:27 AM PST by xzins (Prepare Ye the way of the Lord.)
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To: MeekMom
You're church of Christ, don't forget to get baptized or ya can't go to heaven in your works based faith.

BigMack

95 posted on 01/27/2003 9:42:31 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
That said, Bush is pretty busy just now changing geo-politics, making the world safer for our children, and hopefully, moving the world towards a more Judeo-Christian ethos.

<> I forget where he gets that power in our Constitution. Can you point out for me the section?

<> To all: Read "Saddam, King of Terror" by Con Coughlin. Regardless of his history, Saddam is a viper that requires beheading

<> Just a viper? I thought he was supposed to be another Hitler.<>

96 posted on 01/27/2003 9:44:34 AM PST by Catholicguy (War is the health of the State - Randolph Bourne)
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To: MeekMom
Yep really am rn mom of 7 (all grown thank God:>)
97 posted on 01/27/2003 9:44:47 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; xzins
You bet. The second most important thing Bush has facing him is Supreme Court appointments.

More than anything, that's when we'll see how resolute this Christian Republican really is.

I think the odds are 50-50.

Righteousness is more than Christmas cards (especially piano Christmas cards). I pray for him, that he'll surpass his history.

98 posted on 01/27/2003 9:46:20 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
ROFL!!

I REALLY appreciate your post! LOL

I too agree our beloved President is very busy with extremely important/urgent matters of our nation and the world. And I'm not too sure myself how the thread got turned on it's head to the current discussions.

BTW, did you read about the donkey exploding recently?
No one was injured, thank God!

Terry Jones (Jonesy): "Oh! Mrs. Knickerbocker's EXPLODED!"

ROFL!

99 posted on 01/27/2003 9:48:49 AM PST by MeekMom (( LIFE-LONG-GROUPIE-OF-ALL-THINGS-PYTHON!))
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To: xzins
re: post #91

...woe! Hold on there little buckerroo!
What's up with the hostility?
I answered you as best as I can...(and I did mention that).
Christ founded His church...
After obeying the Gospel, the Lord Himself, added me to His church...
I'm sorry, but in all "honesty" I cannot put it to you in any other way...

100 posted on 01/27/2003 9:53:41 AM PST by MeekMom (( Please visit http://CNLGLFG.com))
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