[jlogajan]

But actually, it's the teaching of Darwin's theory as a "fact" that starts many young people doubting the existence of God. Once we stop believing in God, we discard his moral laws and start making up our own rules, which is basically why our society is in so much trouble. ...

Anatomical similarities between men and animals are said to prove common ancestry. But intelligent design also results in innumerable similarities, as in the case of two makes of automobile.

Ha ha, he slipped up. ID'ers are supposed to pretend that ID doesn't presuppose a God, or some numbnuts thing like that.

But here the matter is out in the open -- they hate the theory of evolution because then God isn't so important.

That pretty much explains the rest of their "science" on the issue.

[DWar]

"Ha ha, he slipped up. ID'ers are supposed to pretend that ID doesn't presuppose a God, or some numbnuts thing like that. "


A rational discusion of Intelligent Design DOES DEFINITELY presuppose a preexisting intelligence. That which is designed cannot preexist the designer. Intelligent Design does not necessitate the Christian God for it to have validity or for that matter a god of a supernatural nature. But rather a very powerful, intelligent force which preexisted the material universe.

So taking the God hating emotion out of the discusion...there was no 'slip-up'.

[DWar]

In physics, the Second Law of Thermodynamics, also known as the law of entropy, is clear that all complex systems are in a continual process of being reduced to less complexity. In nature, it is scientifically impossible for a less complex system, organic or inorganic, to move from the less to the more complex.

" mutations – long claimed by evolutionists to be the building blocks of evolutionary change – are now known to remove information from the genetic code. They never create higher, more complex information..."

[lasereye]

ID'ers are supposed to pretend that ID doesn't presuppose a God, or some numbnuts thing like that.

Who says that? It doesn't presuppose the Biblical accounts, but who says it doesn't presuppose any God?

[MEGoody]

Well, some people have faith in God, some people have faith that a series of mutations (nature's 'miscalculations') kept happening until something good came of it. Then that something good had to wait around until another something good came from more mutations, and so on and so on.

Belief in either is a choice, because neither position is supported by incontrovertible proof.

By the way, I've always wondered - if evolution is supposedly true, why don't we have more 'varieties' of humans, e.g. some with arms that reach nearly to their ankles, some with only one eye in the middle of their forehead and so on. Strange we don't find bones and fossils of such things either.