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Refuting Darwinism, point by point
WorldNetDaily,com ^ | 1-11-03 | Interview of James Perloff

Posted on 01/11/2003 9:53:34 PM PST by DWar

EVOLUTION WATCH Refuting Darwinism, point by point Author's new book presents case against theory in just 83 pages

Posted: January 11, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

Editor's note: In 1999, author James Perloff wrote the popular "Tornado in a Junkyard," which summarizes much of the evidence against evolution and is considered one of the most understandable (while still scientifically accurate) books on the subject. Recently, WND talked with Perloff about his new book, "The Case Against Darwin."

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

QUESTION: Your new book is just 83 pages – and the type is large. What gives?

ANSWER: This past March I got a call from Ohio. There has been a battle there to allow critical examination of evolutionary theory in public schools, and a gentleman wanted 40 copies of Tornado to give to state legislators and school board members. I was delighted to send him the books, but I also knew that a state legislator isn't likely to pick up anything that's 321 pages long.

Q: And not just state legislators.

A: Right. We live in an age when parents often don't have time to read anything long, and their kids, who are usually more into video, may not have the inclination.

Q: So what's the focus of this book?

A: I've divided it into three chapters. The first is called "Is Darwin's Theory Relevant to Our Lives?" In other words, is the subject of this book worth my time or not? A lot of people think this is simply a science issue. And to some of them, science is booooring. But actually, it's the teaching of Darwin's theory as a "fact" that starts many young people doubting the existence of God. Once we stop believing in God, we discard his moral laws and start making up our own rules, which is basically why our society is in so much trouble. In short, Darwinism is very relevant – it's much more than a science matter.

Q: You, yourself, were an atheist for many years, were you not, as a result of evolutionary teaching?

A: That's right. I thought evolution had discredited the Bible. In my books, I give examples of notables who became atheists from being taught evolution, such as Stalin and Carnegie. In fact, the atheist Boy Scout who's been in the news reportedly attributes his atheism to being taught evolution.

Q: Why do you think evolution has such a persuasively negative effect on faith?

A: First, it's taught as "scientific fact." When kids hear "scientific fact," they think "truth." Who wants to go against truth? Second, it's the only viewpoint that's taught. After the Supreme Court kicked God out of schools in the '60s, kids heard the evolutionist viewpoint exclusively. It's like going to a courtroom – if you only heard the prosecutor's summation, you would probably think the defendant guilty. But if you only heard the defendant's attorney, you'd think "innocent." The truth is, we need to hear both sides, and kids haven't been getting it on the subject of origins.

Q: OK, then what?

A: The second chapter is "Evidence Against the Theory of Evolution." Let's face it, no matter what Darwinism's social ramifications, that alone would not be a sufficient basis to criticize it, if it were scientifically proven true.

Q: In a nutshell – if that's possible – what is the scientific evidence against Darwinism?

A: In the book, I focus on six areas of evidence. First, mutations – long claimed by evolutionists to be the building blocks of evolutionary change – are now known to remove information from the genetic code. They never create higher, more complex information – even in the rare cases of beneficial mutations, such as bacterial resistance to antibiotics. That has been laid out by Dr. Lee Spetner in his book "Not By Chance."

Q: What else?

A: Second, cells are now known to be far too complex to have originated by some chance concurrence of chemicals, as Darwin hypothesized and is still being claimed. We detail that in the book. Third, the human body has systems, such as blood clotting and the immune system, that are, in the words of biochemist Michael Behe, "irreducibly complex," meaning they cannot have evolved step-by-step. Behe articulated that in his book "Darwin's Black Box." And then there is the whole issue of transitional forms.

Q: What is a transitional form?

A: Darwin's theory envisioned that single-celled ancestors evolved into invertebrates (creatures without a backbone), who evolved into fish, who evolved into amphibians, who evolved into reptiles, who evolved into mammals. Now, a transitional form would be a creature intermediate between these. There would have to be a great many for Darwin's theory to be true.

Q: Are there?

A: There are three places to look for transitional forms. First, there's the living world around us. We see that it is distinctly divided – you have invertebrates, fish, amphibians, reptiles and mammals. But we don't see transitionals between them. If these creatures ever existed, why did none survive? It is too easy to explain it away by saying they all became extinct. And of course, there is the question: Why aren't these creatures evolving into each other today? Why aren't invertebrates evolving into fish today? Why aren't fish growing little legs and so forth?

Q: Where else would you look for a transitional form?

A: In the fossil record. And here we have a problem of almost comparable magnitude. We find no fossils showing how the invertebrates evolved, or demonstrating that they came from a common ancestor. That's why you hear of the "Cambrian explosion." And while there are billions of fossils of both invertebrates and fish, fossils linking them are missing. Of course, there are some transitional fossils cited by evolutionists. However, two points about that. First, there should be a lot more if Darwin's theory is correct. Second, 99 percent of the biology of an organism is in its soft anatomy, which you cannot access in a fossil – this makes it easy to invest a fossil with a highly subjective opinion. The Piltdown Man and the recent Archaeoraptor are examples of how easy it is to be misled by preconceptions in this arena.

Q: What is the other place where you can look for transitional forms?

A: Microscopically, in the cell itself. Dr. Michael Denton, the Australian molecular biologist, examined these creatures on a molecular level and found no evidence whatsoever for the fish-amphibian-reptile-mammal sequence. He summarized his findings in his book "Evolution: A Theory in Crisis."

The last chapter is "Re-evaluating Some Evidences Used to Support the Theory" of evolution. That would include evidences that have been discredited, and also some evidences presented as proof that in fact rest on assumptions.

Q: What evidences have been discredited?

A: Ernst Haeckel's comparative embryo drawings. The human body being laden with "vestigial structures" from our animal past. Human blood and sea water having the same percentage of salt. Babies being born with "monkey tails." These are not foundational evidences, but they still hold sway in the public mind.

Q: You mentioned assumptions as proofs.

A: Yes. Anatomical similarities between men and animals are said to prove common ancestry. But intelligent design also results in innumerable similarities, as in the case of two makes of automobile. Also, what has been called "microevolution" – minor adaptive changes within a type of animal – is extrapolated as evidence for "macroevolution" – the changing of one kind of animal into another. However, a species is normally endowed with a rich gene pool that permits a certain amount of variation and adaptation. Certainly, those things happen. But the change is ordinarily limited to the confines of the gene pool. It doesn't mean a fish could adapt its way into being a human.

Q: You covered a lot of this ground in "Tornado in a Junkyard." Can readers expect something new from "The Case Against Darwin"?

A: There is a bit of new material, but no, if you've read "Tornado," or for that matter, if you read the July 2001 Whistleblower, where we looked at evolution, you already know most of the points. What's new is the size. This is a book to give to a busy friend, a book for a high-school student to share with his science teacher.

"The Case Against Darwin" by James Perloff is available from ShopNetDaily.


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To: BMCDA
Creation/God...REFORMATION(Judeo-Christianity)---secular-govt.-humanism/SCIENCE---CIVILIZATION!

Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives(no govt religion--none) who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD---the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(limited NON-intrusive PC Govt/religion---schools)!

Evolution...Atheism-dehumanism---TYRANNY(pc-religion/rhetoric)...

Then came the SPLIT SCHIZOPHRENIA/ZOMBIE/BRAVE-NWO1984 LIBERAL NEO-Soviet Darwin America---the post-modern evo fascist expert age . . .

To: f.Christian

Now I follow, thank you. Actually, I don't disagree with this at all since I see the left as abandoning the uncertianty of democracy and majority rule for the assurance technocracy and expert rule.

152 posted on 9/10/02 12:17 PM Pacific by Liberal Classic

81 posted on 01/12/2003 12:36:40 PM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: BMCDA
Never criticize one of your fellow creationists in front of evolutionists even if you know that his claims are false.

It may look that way, but I don't think they play such a well-coordinated game. Probably the truth of the matter is that most creationists have never figured out how to determine if a claim is false. They just cling to their talking points. With increasing desperation.

82 posted on 01/12/2003 12:38:34 PM PST by PatrickHenry (PH is really a great guy!)
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To: PatrickHenry
Main Entry: tech·noc·ra·cy
Pronunciation: tek-'nä-kr&-sE
Function: noun
Date: circa 1919
: government by technicians; specifically : management of society by technical experts
83 posted on 01/12/2003 12:42:59 PM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: Dimensio
Heheh... now where have I seen that tactic before...?
84 posted on 01/12/2003 12:43:53 PM PST by Condorman (8th Rule of Creationism: Interpret any challenge as personal insult)
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To: Condorman
"A New World Order emerges on the basis of heroic will (( evolution ))."

"It is not hard to see how appetizing this . . . stew (( link )) - - - was for Hitler."

85 posted on 01/12/2003 12:53:17 PM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: Stultis; fabian
From the mussel link--

Another major barrier in bacteria lies in the structure of the gene encoding the adhesive protein. This is a long and extremely repetitive piece of DNA, and bacteria, correctly, recognise it as foreign and rapidly eliminate it through a process known as recombination.

86 posted on 01/12/2003 1:06:38 PM PST by AndrewC (If it ain't broke don't fix it.)
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To: DWar
In physics, the Second Law of Thermodynamics, also known as the law of entropy, is clear that all complex systems are in a continual process of being reduced to less complexity.

The second law says no such thing. You really should learn some elementary thermodynamics to avoid making such mistakes.

87 posted on 01/12/2003 1:08:10 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic ( You can't win. You can't break even. You can't quit.)
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To: PatrickHenry
It may look that way, but I don't think they play such a well-coordinated game.

This doesn't have to be coordinated. If you're up for a holy cause you simply don't criticize your brother in arms in front of all those infidels since they're doing this already enough. So it's no problem if your fellow creationist is wrong about some issue (even from your point of view) - no, the problem is that the evolutionist might be right and this impression has to be avoided at any cost.

But of course it may also be that some creationists haven't figured out how to determine if a claim is false as you said.

88 posted on 01/12/2003 1:08:10 PM PST by BMCDA
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To: Condorman
Nice post. Liked your typical 'dishonest evolutionist' tactic of actually trying to discuss the real theory of evolution rather than some creationist strawman version. You evolutionists will never have any credibility if you insist upon sticking with 'facts' and 'truth'.
89 posted on 01/12/2003 1:10:20 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: VadeRetro
This one of those "you really have to be a believer already" type of arguments.

Vade Retro hurling ad-hominems instead of discussing the issues - what else is new?

90 posted on 01/12/2003 2:38:26 PM PST by gore3000
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To: garbanzo
or even one on biology rather than relying on what they heard from some guy on the state of the science in these fields.

You certainly should do that and you would see that evolution is impossible.

91 posted on 01/12/2003 2:40:58 PM PST by gore3000
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To: Stultis
And he wants this book to be used in the schools, or at least to be used by teachers as a blind text? Note that this simple minded fundie does not for a minute believe that he was wrong to infer atheism from evolution. Quite the contrary. In fact the opening section of his book makes a point of justifying that inference. Therefore, at least in the effect on those unpersuaded by his creationist psuedoscience, Perloff is teaching atheism!

What a convoluted argument you make in order to attack this author! You cannot deny his statements (like the rest of the evolutionists) so you contrive a totally phony attack on the man. How lame!

92 posted on 01/12/2003 2:45:25 PM PST by gore3000
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To: Stultis
Expanding on my previous post.) This is what I'm talking about. There are only two sides to this idiot. Evolution -- which equals atheism, communism, facism, sex with animals, etc -- and Creationism -- which equals theism, apple pie and dimples on smiling children.

Expanding on the ad-hominems by building a straw man. You cannot refute his statements so you attack the man - WITH PHONY ARGUMENTS.

93 posted on 01/12/2003 2:47:02 PM PST by gore3000
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To: Dimensio
You Establishment Religion Darwinites can explain how an egg physico-chemically develops into a mature organism!-metacognitive-

This has nothing to do with evolution, so I don't know why you bring it up.

Biology has nothing to do with evolution? Really? Shows to what absurd lengths the fools of evolution go to discredit opponents. Seems to me that evolution needs to explain how such a complex reproductive function arose by chance (but of course they cannot).

94 posted on 01/12/2003 2:51:05 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
""You Establishment Religion Darwinites can explain how an egg physico-chemically develops into a mature organism!-metacognitive-""

"This has nothing to do with evolution, so I don't know why you bring it up."


Biology has nothing to do with evolution?

No, development of an organism starting from a fertilized egg has nothing to do with evolution. It should be incredibly clear from the contet what I was implying, so I can't tell if you're just incredibly ignorant or incredibly dishonest.
95 posted on 01/12/2003 2:55:09 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: Stultis
What are you saying about the process of development? Are you suggesting that divine interventions are involved?

At least for the creation of the process of development, it certainly did require divine intervention. Developmental scientists call the process by which a single cell turns into a 100 trillion cell organism with all the cells of the right kind and in the right place a program. Programs are not subject to random stochastic alteration.

In addition, how do you explain how a species can change its mode of reprodutction while continuing to reproduce? How did reptiles (supposedly) change from egg laying to live bearing while continuing to reproduce?????????

96 posted on 01/12/2003 2:55:50 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
You cannot deny his statements

The statement that evolution implies atheism is already so obviously false as to not be worth denying. Any 'author' who tries to use it as an arguing point has already destroyed their credibility.
97 posted on 01/12/2003 2:56:17 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: Dimensio
"But actually, it's the teaching of Darwin's theory as a "fact" that starts many young people doubting the existence of God. Once we stop believing in God, we discard his moral laws and start making up our own rules, which is basically why our society is in so much trouble. In short, Darwinism is very relevant – it's much more than a science matter." -article-

The article brings up God first.

Yup, but you attack the messenger instead of trying to disprove the message. The message is true. Darwin was an atheist. Most of his friends were atheists, and just about all the famous Darwinists have been atheists. So yes, you can bet that evolution is atheistic.

98 posted on 01/12/2003 2:59:11 PM PST by gore3000
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To: PatrickHenry
Yes, the gaps that remain are what's left after several large gaps have been plugged.

Total garbage. The problem of the Cambrian explosion where over 40 new phyla (the highest order of classification next to kingdom) arose suddenly, without antecedents in less than 5 million years remains a completely unexplainable. Darwin himself admitted that if the antecedents were not found his theory would be false. Gould split with Darwinism because he saw that due to the lack of of ancestors for these numerous phyla, Darwinism had been disproven.

99 posted on 01/12/2003 3:03:38 PM PST by gore3000
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To: PatrickHenry
Hey Patrick, when are you ever going to say something regarding the issues instead of insulting opponents?
100 posted on 01/12/2003 3:06:03 PM PST by gore3000
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