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At War on the Border:First drug dealers, next a wave of illegal immigration,then fear of terrorists
Tuscon Weekly ^ | Leo W. Banks

Posted on 12/24/2002 1:18:42 PM PST by sarcasm

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To: WarHawk42
It is going to take a lot of light shed on this subject to get the powers that be in Washington to do anything about it.

IMHO, enough light has been shed. The U.S. Government does not intend to do anything. The Ranchers need to proceed on their own, doing what is in their best interest, without attracting the attention of the media.

61 posted on 12/25/2002 7:08:28 PM PST by bimbo
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To: 11B3
Whatever happened to being able to protect your own land?

Only this: It must be done without public scrutiny.

62 posted on 12/25/2002 7:17:24 PM PST by bimbo
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To: bimbo
The U.S. Government does not intend to do anything.

That's the botton line. If the government cannot or will not control the borders, it too will eventually become illegitimate. It's just not in their agenda, not part of their plan. It will be up to the people themselves, once they have enough and the crisis becomes more volatile. It will happen.

63 posted on 12/25/2002 8:31:36 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
There is a degree of schadenfreude in seeing the CA state government in financial collapse. It demonstrates the utter incompetency of the socialists that control the state government. The lucrative welfare benefits are a major league draw to illegals and homeless. The great weather encourages the "urban outdoorsman" to come to southern CA. San Diego even spends a pile of the taxpayer's money to open "cold weather" shelters to keep the homeless comfortable and "in town". The poverty pimps don't want to encourage them to find nicer digs elsewhere.

What seems odd is that you would welcome it. You are living on the battlefield. All those people living on the dole are going to find an alternative means of survival if the state can't provide it. Insurrection and increased property crimes are a likely outcome. The illegals streaming in from Mexico aren't reading the papers. They are mostly illiterate. They don't understand the impending collapse. Los Angeles is ripe for some major league gang violence. Living on the government dole provides spare time for dealin' and stealin'.

64 posted on 12/25/2002 10:17:03 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I did leave a point out about Idaho. Even though our revenues are way down, we have a constitutional requirement for a balanced budget. The legislature and governor are required to cut services if the money isn't there to spend. A budget with a deficit is unconstitutional in the state of Idaho. If California played by the same rules, they would admit that there is only $60 billion available to spend and cut services accordingly. There would be no "deficit". There would be quite a howl from the lefties.
65 posted on 12/25/2002 10:24:17 PM PST by Myrddin
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Shoot.

Shovel.

Shut up.

66 posted on 12/25/2002 10:32:26 PM PST by Wormwood
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To: Myrddin
What seems odd is that you would welcome it. You are living on the battlefield.

Actually no. I am in a very good area, and have the means of going to a very remote alternate hideout if required. Got a big family and lots of support here. We intend to stay on the front lines. Being in the rear always bored me.

Somethings need to hit the brutal rock bottom before they ever get better. This is my tough love for Cal. That's why I welcome it. Bring it on.

67 posted on 12/25/2002 11:35:00 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: *immigrant_list; eye for an eye
ping
68 posted on 12/25/2002 11:58:53 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: 185JHP
Perhaps it is nonsense to you "fella", but here in Idaho, and particularly in Limhi county (and in a groing number of counties throughout the west) it certainly is not.

The Sheriff there was not "cuffed" or "stuffed". Similar events have occurred in Wyoming, Montana, Utah, and Nevada.

No one wants an end to our Federal government. We just want it to operate within the bounds it was established.

69 posted on 12/26/2002 8:46:19 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I tend to agree with you on that, although I hate to think about all the real American citizens that will and are suffering because of it. There is a song about the destruction of California, and a line in it goes, "the only way to fix it is to flush it all away...."
71 posted on 12/26/2002 4:24:56 PM PST by Morrigan
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To: MarkL
I think to be a member of the left, thinking ahead to the consequences of your actions is prohibited.
72 posted on 12/26/2002 4:36:31 PM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: Paulie
Rome?
73 posted on 12/26/2002 4:41:34 PM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: sarcasm
"A neighbor told me he stepped outside and found 80 Iranians in his backyard,"

If this is true, our government should be held responsible.

74 posted on 12/26/2002 4:43:29 PM PST by thepitts
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To: 185JHP
Sheriffs don't "order" Federal Law Enforcement to do much of anything, fella. Unless they want to experience being cuffed and stuffed. This "county authorities rule" idea is nonsense.

Like hell it is, the sheriff is an ELECTED oficiall.

75 posted on 12/26/2002 4:45:18 PM PST by thepitts
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To: thepitts
official
76 posted on 12/26/2002 4:46:35 PM PST by thepitts
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To: madfly
funny how this stuff always ends up out of sight in the back room huh? We have fluff pieces on the" news page "and Governemt watch dog articles get hidden ..sure says something
77 posted on 12/26/2002 4:55:01 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Paulie
Can I repeat this?

They aren't going to do anything about it because illegal aliens are a tool they are using to destroy our sovereignty,and to create a new nation composed of Canada,the US,and Mexico."

No other explanation. This is reprehensible beyond words. Is there any time in history when any nation deliberately destroyed itself?

And what is sad, that some people out their actually think they can run or move to the next state to avoid this titanic invasion. This thing has been going nation wide, outside of the southwest, for 15 years now.

78 posted on 12/26/2002 6:17:23 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: sarcasm
Thanks for the ping!
79 posted on 12/26/2002 6:19:48 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
And what is sad, that some people out their actually think they can run or move to the next state to avoid this titanic invasion.

Out there, there, there, jezzz.

80 posted on 12/26/2002 6:20:59 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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