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To: RadioAstronomer; longshadow
A post to me:

Pearls before swine, friend....

My answer:

Interesting....

There are real in-the-field working scientists (many with PhDs) on FR. A large number of them grace these threads. If you went to college, you might remember just how busy your professors were and what it took to get a “one-on-one”.

So here is a unique opportunity, possibly the only one you will ever have in your lifetime, to have at your fingertips their years of study, knowledge, and cutting edge research from pretty much all walks of science. From what I have seen over the past 4.5 years here, most are willing to answer anything they can in great detail. What an opportunity. Just think for a moment what you have here….. and you call them swine. Sigh

Guess it’s just the typical creationist here on FR. What a waste.

Longshadow was more eloquent than I. :-) Here is his post from a few months ago:

It's worse than that; much worse. In the history of the world, only a tiny fraction of all the people who ever lived have had the opportunity to ask highly qualified scientists direct questions, and learn from their wisdom. Happily, because of the internet and places like FR, it is now possible for people from all walks of life to converse directly with all sorts of scientific experts; we have physicists, microbiologists, mathematicians, astronomers, and chemists, to specify but a few, roaming these threads, and eager to explain what they know and how they know it to virtually anyone willing to ask an intelligent question.

But there is another segment of people on these threads who, instead of asking these learned folks intelligent questions and thus expanding their knowledge and understanding, insist instead upon bludgeoning them with their ignorance, and questioning the patriotism, honesty, and intellect of people who have dedicated their lives to the pursuit of scientific knowledge.

I submit that such people are not here to learn anything, but are in fact interested in quite the opposite. I submit they are here to interfere with the dissemination of scientific knowledge that they find offensive. They don't want other people to ask the experts questions and learn from them; no, they are hear to attack the experts and cast doubt upon their wisdom, in the desperate hope that others will turn away and not listen to them.

IMHO that is why the same people show up over and over again parroting the same refuted diatribes and misinformation, and spewing the same bogus out-of-context quotes designed specifically to disrupt the dissemination of scientific knowledge. That why the same people show up over and over again misrepresenting what scientific theories and laws are, despite having had it explained to them 1720th time; they are here to instill confusion and spread their ignorance, not to disseminate knowledge.

The experts here on these threads ought to be revered and thanked for sharing with us their insights and explanations of the natural world around us; instead scorn is heaped upon them and their knowledge by the belligerently ignorant. I submit that these purveyors of unknowledge should be treated for the intellectual disruptors that they are. The stare the best opportunity any of us will ever have to gain more insight and understanding in the face, and spit in the eyes of those who offer and have the knowledge to help make that a reality.

Behold, I give you the belligerently ignorant, the intellectual Luddite's of our time. Know them for the anti-knowledge disruptors they are.

6,982 posted on 08/21/2006 8:16:06 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer

How about the CMB, Lyman alpha forest, gravitational lensing, Boomerang data, nuclear decay and half-life, phylogeny, geological column, Hertzsprung-Russell diagram and stellar evolution, galactic formation, stellar nurseries, Earth/ Moon tides and lunar recession, dating rocks, continental drift, galactic rotation, colliding galaxies, supernova SN1987A, Population I and Population II type stars, fine-structure constant, etc.

CMB:

http://www.astro.ubc.ca/people/scott/cmb_intro.html

http://background.uchicago.edu/

http://www.astro.ubc.ca/people/scott/cmb.html

Lyman alpha forest:

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/Lyman-alpha-forest.html

Gravitational lensing:

http://www.iam.ubc.ca/~newbury/lenses/lenses.html

Boomerang data:

http://cmb.phys.cwru.edu/boomerang/

http://www.nersc.gov/news/annual_reports/annrep00/02compsci_boomerang.html

Nuclear decay and half-life:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/nuclear/halfli2.html

Phylogeny:

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/exhibit/phylogeny.html

http://tolweb.org/tree/phylogeny.html

Geological column:

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/help/timeform.html

Hertzsprung-Russell diagram and stellar evolution:

http://zebu.uoregon.edu/~soper/Stars/hrdiagram.html

http://cassfos02.ucsd.edu/public/tutorial/StevI.html

Galactic formation:

http://galileo.as.utexas.edu/research.html

Stellar nurseries:

http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia/Bima/StarForm.html

Earth/ Moon tides and lunar recession:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/moonrec.html

Dating rocks:

http://earth.leeds.ac.uk/dynamicearth/dating/

Continental drift:

http://kids.earth.nasa.gov/archive/pangaea/

Galactic rotation

http://web.mit.edu/davidl/www/astro.pdf

Colliding galaxies:

http://orca.phys.uvic.ca/~patton/openhouse/collisions.html

Supernova and SN1987A:

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/dave_matson/young-earth/additional_topics/supernova.html

Population I and Population II type stars:

http://www.astro.umd.edu/education/astro/mw/pop.html

http://www.answers.com/topic/stellar-population

Fine-structure constant

http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Constants/alpha.html

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2005/04/18_deep2.shtml

And lastly here is a good overall site:

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm


6,985 posted on 08/21/2006 8:19:23 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer

bttt


7,032 posted on 03/09/2007 4:39:52 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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