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To: donh
This is just a long-winded way of avoiding making your claim explicitly, so that it can be easily seen, which is that DNA whopped into existence from simple organic molecules with no intermediate steps. There is nothing compelling about this claim. you don't know how DNA came to be; so you don't know squat about how hard it was to do.

My claim is explicit enough. There is no necessity to the order of DNA just as there is no necessity to the order of letters in a book. This is a scientifically proven fact. To say that a string of DNA at least 250,000 bases long arose by chance is utterly impossible and neither you nor anyone can show how such an occurrence, as well as all the concomitants of a living cell (because you need a living cell for reproduction) could have arisen from inert matter could have ever happened. It is the old chicken and egg problem which materialists can never answer - you need both a cell plus a very long string of DNA to get life and you cannot have one without the other.

631 posted on 12/16/2002 10:09:15 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
My claim is explicit enough. There is no necessity to the order of DNA just as there is no necessity to the order of letters in a book. This is a scientifically proven fact. To say that a string of DNA at least 250,000 bases long arose by chance is utterly impossible

Right. That's why no one with any scientific credibility has been saying this, for some time now. Perhaps after another decade or so, you'll get the message and stop trying to refute a scientific notion science does not hold. No one with any sense thinks such a chain could occur at random, with high enough probability to care. However, it is a far cry from that to the claim that, therefore, God, or little green men, did it. If you don't know the details of how something was done, then, at the risk of being repetitive, you cannot concoct a meaningful calculation of the odds against it.

662 posted on 12/17/2002 12:21:32 AM PST by donh
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