[gore3000]

There wouldn't be any material reason for supposing "someone imagining" and "God creating" would result in a lickspittle of detectible material difference. If so, kindly tell me what it would be? Do you think we'd look more faded and transparent if "someone imagined" us into existence? Kindly present your material evidence for believing this.

Either way it seems to me that you are admitting the existence of God and that the Universe was created by God.

[donh]

There wouldn't be any material reason for supposing "someone imagining" and "God creating" would result in a lickspittle of detectible material difference. If so, kindly tell me what it would be? Do you think we'd look more faded and transparent if "someone imagined" us into existence? Kindly present your material evidence for believing this.

Either way it seems to me that you are admitting the existence of God and that the Universe was created by God.

Sigh. What would it take to get you to actually follow an argument? The two points under discussion are 1) that it ain't possible to disprove the thesis that God did it (which is not, by any stretch of the imagination, equivalent to dispositive proof that God Did It), and 2) That Bishop Berkeley's conjecture that "someone imagined it up" is, insofar as material differentiation goes, exactly equivalent to "God created it".

If you'd like to address either of these points, please feel free.