[js1138]

I KNOW THAT I KNOW that the grief I feel in losing them is meaningful - it is not just some chemical process in my brain. If grief is just atoms colliding in my brain, I should be able to just ignore those feelings and not let them affect me at all - why does it feel so profoundly meaningful and real? Could it be....it feels that way because grief is meaningful and real? And love is meaningful and real (not just some material process?

You have a 19th century view of what materialism is, and what matter is. It's been at least 75 years since anyone could blow off material processes as billiard balls bouncing around.

[exmarine]

You have a 19th century view of what materialism is, and what matter is. It's been at least 75 years since anyone could blow off material processes as billiard balls bouncing around.

Again, you refuse to look at this at the personal level. You keep talking about materialism, but I want to know how your atheism is compatible with your mannishness. Could you explain to me how your loved ones or your love for them could be anything more than a materialistic process without God?

I know that 19th century Materialism is refuted - but many naturalists don't know it yet! How does the new view of materialistic processes help you?

[exmarine]

Gould, Nietszche and Sagan finally realized all is meaningless and nihilistic, and these men are the icons of naturalistic atheism! Why do you disagree with them? On what basis?

[gore3000]

You have a 19th century view of what materialism is, and what matter is.

So materialism is "evolving" also? What's the new definition? Why did it evolve?