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So I guess your 'science' would say that flint tools arose by chance? By natural processes? Your exclusion of design from science is totally false. There is far more certainty that the bacterial flagellum was designed than that a stone axe arose by chance.

Get a grip G3, a flint axe was created by man as a tool. So yes, it was intelligently designed.

But this strawman, Bacterial Flagellum has been refuted and discussed so many times that it is insane, but , I will just add one more thing.

Just because we do NOT know the process exactly, does NOT mean that it could not have happened. Impossible is NOT in my vaocabulary. Also, just because YOU are without enough scientific knowledge or imagination to come up wwith a scientific explanation, just as you hero Behe was or is, DOES not mean that Goddidit. That explanation is a proof to me of scientific laziness and lack of knowlesge.

Goddidit is a copout. But what more should I expect from you?

I will say this to you directly, because maybe you have IGNORED it in other posts that I have written.

God CANNOT be used as causation in REAL science, because God can neither be proven nor disproven, therefore god cannot be used used as a causation for anything scientifically explained, because it then becomes religion, NOT science.

Get a grip G3, a flint axe was created by man as a tool. So yes, it was intelligently designed.
How do you know that it was intelligently designed? You were not there, there are no witnesses alive from that time. There is no writing from the time.

But this strawman, Bacterial Flagellum has been refuted and discussed so many times that it is insane

Since you claim that it has been refuted so many times with such certainty, then you should be able to give us the short version of the refutation.

Just because we do NOT know the process exactly, does NOT mean that it could not have happened. Impossible is NOT in my vaocabulary. Also, just because YOU are without enough scientific knowledge or imagination to come up wwith a scientific explanation, just as you hero Behe was or is, DOES not mean that Goddidit. That explanation is a proof to me of scientific laziness and lack of knowlesge.

Seems to me that this paragraph shows that your previous one was totally false. The bacterial flagellum has not been scientifically refuted.

You make some totally false statements also. Specifically that Behe's identification of the bacterial flagellum as irreducibly complex is due to lack of scientific knowledge. If that was the case, in the six years since he first made this claim it would have been refuted.

As to your 'refutation' that calling the bacterial flagellum irreducibly complex shows a lack of imagination , just let me say this, the Brothers Grimm had lots of imagination, but their work is not science.

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To: Cyclops08

>>I am sometimes ashamed I live in a nation of moralistic cowards.

There's nothing "Moral" about them. These doorknobs confuse "Nicety" for Morality for a reason. They want nothing to do with God, the creator. They just want all the benefits that go with Heaven...The peace, the happy, mutually respectful society, the socialist political philosophy that actually works.

Without God, there is no hope of ANY society with happiness, etc, etc, etc. SHUNNING God in the hope of making it happen by your own failed human philosophies is just assinine and arrogant.

16 posted on 01/11/2003 12:15 PM PST by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)