[Junior]

Morals most certainly can be measured -- indeed morals can be boiled down to that which does me the most good while doing others the least harm. That is an absolute, objective yardstick against which to measure the morals of anyone.

Listen, I've got to run off and play sailor for the weekend; I won't be able to answer any of your replies until Sunday night or Monday. Until then, take care and I look forward to taking this up with you once I return.

[exmarine]

Morals most certainly can be measured -- indeed morals can be boiled down to that which does me the most good while doing others the least harm. That is an absolute, objective yardstick against which to measure the morals of anyone.

You are getting desperate now. You are so loathe to admit when you are wrong that come up with the above? Actually, the pain/pleasure principle was posited as an ALTERNATIVE to conventional objective morality (it denies it!), and it finally evolved into utilitarianism. Is this the best you can do? Why don't you just admit you were wrong? You were and are.