[B. Rabbit]

You are now just twisting words around. I was having fun before, but...

I've already told you my belief. Freedom and logic decide what is good and evil. You are making strange, warped arguments about Stalin and Hitler (who subjectively held Jews as inferior in terms of value of life). No more talk about moral relativism. That is the end statement. People hold others' value at different levels = subjective. This is not something you can argue against.

I think that you are saying that God holds human life as objective and God exists and therefore life is objective? Maybe that makes more sense if that's what you believe. But humans hold each others' value quite subjectively.

[Condorman]

It aso doesn't help that exmarine is failing to distinguish between "moral", "value", and "worth", mixing terms willy-nilly. Again, debate is futile without defining one's terms.

That he fails to maintain a consistent position is also frustrating (see exmarine's post 3882 and my response at post 3900.)

[exmarine]

People hold others' value at different levels = subjective. This is not something you can argue against.

That is just another way of saying everyone values things differently. I didn't argue that. My argument was that people have worth regardless of whether I believe it, and I supported that argument quite well.

There is a difference between what I like and what is right and wrong. Similarly, there is a difference between what I value and what is truly and objectively value. Your mistake is you are trying to make objective and subjective the same thing.