You force my hand. Tell me the source of your God. Where did He come from? And don't tell me he is above all else and doesn't operate under our rules - "that is a non-answer". You can't answer, because to you He is absolute. Now do you realize how I base my logic on moral absolutes? If something happened tomorrow which comlpetely disproved your God, I would still follow the same absolute morals, and let's be honest exmarine, so would you. It's right because it's right.
My point at #4,175 was that:
- "Our sense of morality is self-evident, - & that all mankind has always possessed it, - is obvious from the presence of the 'golden rule' in all societies, regardless of religion.
We all learn this golden rule at our mothers breast, in the form of "don't bite the tit that feeds you".
- All else logically follows.
To which our 'fab' exmarine replied:
The golden rule does not exist in all societies. It is strictly Christian.
A flip remark he has been trying to justify ever since, -- seeing that it is obvious that there are versions of the golden rule from virtually every society that has had a recorded philosophy. -- I once saw a list here on FR of close to a hundred such examples. -4256-
Your post is exeedingly facile.
Tell you what - why don't YOU come up with a source other than God for moral absolutes...and don't tell me they are simply self-evident - that is a non-answer.
I already did, - just above. Mans reason is the source of his morality, sparked by the logic of the 'golden rule'.
Reality cannot be self-evident.
Why not?
-- This idiocy of yours, whereby you make simpilistic pronoucements, as above, is cute, but silly. -- Please, try to explain the logic of this oddly framed opinion.
There are only 2 sources for morals (unless YOU can name another!) - man or God. Take your pick.
Nope, - there is only one, - man. Unless of course, you can show us where a God set down these sources. -- And please, the bible is unquestionably a work of man.