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To: exmarine
If the theories he is teaching are based on true science and fact, then no, he should NOT be fired, but if he comes right out and says it, then yes.

If you wish your children to learn about god etc, then you teach them at home. Teaching your religious beliefs is the parents job, not the schools. It is the schools job, in a perfect world that is, which this is not, to NOT interfere in a childs belief system, but I will be the first to admit that schools DO interfere, and they should NOT.

I believe bible clubs, religious organizations should be allowed to practice at schools on a voluntary basis, just as I believe the boy scouts should be allowed etc. I do not believe that they should be allowed to prostletize etc, but they should be allowed to get students of the same faith together so that they may worship or study or whatever they choose to do.

Again, my opinion is this, science belongs in a science class, whether you believe it is anti-theistic or not, I do NOT believe that, because MOST scientists have some sort of belief in the divine. They just don't let it interfere with their work, just as they do not allow it to interfere in their beliefs.

Schools should be secular, I pay for it, it would be offensive to my beliefs if my children were taught that creationism were taught as science, I have my own belief systems, and therefore I will teach my children those beliefs myself. I do NOT want the schools even admitting that there is a god, but I also do NOT want them saying there is NO god either.

It is NONE of the schools business, and that whole pandoras box needs to stay closed. Because, once we admit one, you know that we will have to admit ALL of them. This includes, paganism, which I am, but again, that is NONE of the schools business, devil worship, which I abhor, Islam, which of course is the most troublemaking religion there is at this juncture, Buddhism, which is peaceful, but I don't want my kids meditating in class, Hinduism, I don't want my kids to learn to worship some elephant god, etc, etc ad nauseum. Christianity is one of the most peaceful religions, but I still do not want it taught in school, because there are so MANY different sects, which ones do you let in, if you let in one, you have to let them all in, mormonism?, presbetyrian, how about we invite a Roman Catholic Priest in, not near my son, thank you, sorry, that was a bad joke.

Anyway, I think you understand where I am coming from, this is another reason I homeschool, I don't want my kids involved in such nonsense and debates.

Some of the stuff they are teaching is so far beyond the pale that there is no way I want my kids near it.
4,127 posted on 01/09/2003 9:40:28 AM PST by Aric2000 (The Theory of Evolution is Science, ID and Creationism are Religious, Any Questions?)
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To: Aric2000
Homesporing // cloning . . . mushrooming ! ! !
4,131 posted on 01/09/2003 9:55:50 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: Aric2000
If the theories he is teaching are based on true science and fact, then no, he should NOT be fired, but if he comes right out and says it, then yes.

Is spontaneous generation of life a fact? Nope. I can name several other facets of neodarwinism that are taught in schools in biology textbooks that ARE NOT FACT. For example, Haekel's theory of recapitulation (discredited about 100 years ago!) and the insipid and phoney peppered moth (now known to be staged!). Why is it that these outright LIES are taught to kids? Isn't that grounds for FIRING? If you don't believe these are still in textbooks today, then you are out of touch. Your argument falls under its own weight.

4,141 posted on 01/09/2003 10:41:18 AM PST by exmarine
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To: Aric2000
Schools should be secular, I pay for it, it would be offensive to my beliefs if my children were taught that creationism were taught as science, I have my own belief systems, and therefore I will teach my children those beliefs myself. I do NOT want the schools even admitting that there is a god, but I also do NOT want them saying there is NO god either.

Your mistake is assuming that there can be any neutral ground on God. There isn't any. One's belief on God is the basis FOR ALL SCIENTIFIC BELIEFS. It is the basis for ALL MORAL BELIEF. It is the basis for everything one believes in life and dictates one's lifestyle and behavior even.

4,145 posted on 01/09/2003 10:43:45 AM PST by exmarine
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