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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl
Of course it does, but god cannot be used for the causation because god cannot be proven nor disproven to exist.

When you can PROVE scientifically the existence of god, then we will talk about god being used in science, although if god is PROVEN, then there will be no need for science because then god will give us the answers that we seek.

The only way to prove that god exists is to get him/her/it to come down to earth, say "I did this" and then it will be proven that he/she/it exists. In the meantime, god cannot be used as a causation because he/she/it, cannot be proven to exist.

It is called curcular reasoning, and has NO place in REAL science.

To say "I don't understand how this could have happened" and then to say, "since I don't understand, then god did it" is NOT scientific, it is a copout, a lazy mans way out of a dilemma that he does not have the knowledge to get out of. So, instead of experimenting and working to find out the causation, he says goddidit, and he doesn't have to work on it anymore.

This is ID, since we don't understand the full complexities of how life evolves, nor how it got so complicated, though there are some EXCELLENT scientific theories, creationists and ID'rs say, GODDIDIT, evolutionists, say, we just do not understand it fully yet, but we will.

One stops the study, GODDIDIT, the other makes the study continue, we do not understand, YET, but let's find out!!

The Theory of Evolution is a threat to the literal meaning of the story of genisis, but when not looked at literally, it fits quite nicely. Alamo Girl has it pretty well worked out in her mind.

She uses god a lot in her theories, therefore it is philisophical and religious, not science, but still interesting all the same.

Evolution as scientific theory, SHOULD be taught in science classes. Creatinism and ID should NOT be taught in a science class, because they are NOT scientific. Want to teach them in a philosophy class or a religious class, fine, be my guest. BUT NOT IN SCIENCE CLASS.

Also, a disclaimer is not only silly, it is unnecessary. THe definition of a THEORY should be taught at the beginning of ALL science classes. Without questions, science would come to a halt.

I welcome anyone to question the Theory of Evolution through the scientific process, but to say that GODDIDIT and then argue that it is science is just silly.

Because GODDIDIT is religion, the causation cannot be proven, therefore it is NOT science.
3,872 posted on 01/08/2003 1:53:05 PM PST by Aric2000 (The Theory of Evolution is Science, ID and Creationism are Religious, Any Questions?)
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To: Aric2000
Thank you so much for sharing your views!

You've made it very clear that your position is that religion belongs in philosophy and not science.

With regard to philosophy, betty boop is the most qualified person known to me.

4,015 posted on 01/08/2003 8:35:07 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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