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To: music_code
Second, there are only two sides to this fence. The only options are evolution or Creation. Since you obviously reject Creation, you have nowhere else to go but evolution.

BS, pure and unadultered BS, there is much more then creationism, only your conceit and arrogance in your religion allows you to make such a statement.

There are many religions and many different creation myths, there is also solipsism, whereas, you exist, only because I created you in my mind, my world exists because I made the whole thing up, in essence, I AM GOD, I can name a number of other different points of view as well. Unlike you, I have an open mind, and can study other religions and not prostletize my own, as if mine is the end all, be all of the universe.

There are MANY different philisophical and religious explanations for creation, but evolution is NOT one of them.

Evolution is a scientific theory that explains how the first life on this planet evolved over billions of years, to the life that we have on the planet now. It does NOT seek to explain how that first life form came to be, that is for the purview of chemistry and biology and genetics. Evolution just tries to put the pieces that we have, and put them together in a cohesive and logical whole.

Life was here, that is how evolution starts, not, "this is what created life", but life was here, and it changed over time. That is the foundation of evolution, life was here, and it changed.

It is science. To say that evolution isn't science, is intellectual dishonesty and sorry, just plain STUPIDITY!!
3,294 posted on 01/06/2003 2:09:35 PM PST by Aric2000
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To: Aric2000
Evolution is a scientific theory that explains how the first life on this planet evolved over billions of years, to the life that we have on the planet now. It does NOT seek to explain how that first life form came to be, that is for the purview of chemistry and biology and genetics. Evolution just tries to put the pieces that we have, and put them together in a cohesive and logical whole.

Life was here, that is how evolution starts, not, "this is what created life", but life was here, and it changed over time. That is the foundation of evolution, life was here, and it changed.

This reasoning seems plausible until one presses it to its logical conclusions. For example, if a person disagrees with an evolutionist on the ‘fact of evolution’, the evolutionist will employ a definition of evolution [“Biological evolution is a change in the genetic characteristics of a population over time”] that makes it impossible to disagree and, if one does argue, then that person comes across as being uninformed or irrational or fanatical. This might be acceptable if only it remained right there.

But it doesn’t! That statement about evolution (which happens to be accurate, i.e., genetic characteristics of populations do vary over time) is subsequently modified / extended throughout the evolutionist's other statements and responses so that not only is the person to accept the (empirically corroborated) fact of change, but also that this change is the sole causing agent for the diversity and complexity within an organism (internal organs, cellular structures, etc.) as well as outside of the organism including Earth’s entire flora and fauna. The metaphysical extrapolation of the data that is required to accomplish this feat is somehow always glossed over by the evolutionist - either by ignorance or by design. What’s more, if we are to remain exclusively within the natural (material) realm then the term ‘evolution’ must somehow be further extended to include life from non-life, i.e., the emergence of life itself must also be accounted for by the ever-stretching definition of evolution.

There’s more. The origin of the basic materials that make up all objects (living or not) must also somehow be accounted for so yet other forms of evolution enter the scene—chemical, stellar and planetary. In fact, the universe itself must also be accounted for by evolution.

Thus, whether you hypothesizes a Big Bang, a quantum fluctuation, aliens from another dimension or some other natural explanation, the universe began and has ‘evolved’ to what it is today.

Few would argue with the notion that ‘things change.’ But to take the step from ‘things change’ to ‘and therefore, that’s how it all got here’ is a leap of blind, irrational faith that would send even the most fanatical snake worshipper reeling.

It is science. To say that evolution isn't science, is intellectual dishonesty and sorry, just plain STUPIDITY!!

The question of origins is largely a matter of history—not the domain of applied science. Contrary to the unilateral denials of many evolutionists, one’s worldview does indeed play heavily on one’s interpretation of scientific data, a phenomenon which is magnified in matters concerning origins, where neither repeatability, nor observation, nor measurement — the three immutable elements of the scientific method — may be employed. Many proponents of evolution nevertheless persist in claiming exclusive “scientific” status for their popularized beliefs, while curtly dismissing (if not angrily deriding) all doubters. That is both unreasonable and unscientific!

4,408 posted on 01/10/2003 11:12:01 AM PST by music_code
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