[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you for your post!

If I said anything that sounded Kantian to you, it was entirely accidental.

You cannot arbitrarily decalre God to be immune from the problem of existence simply by declaring Him outside of space and time.

There was nothing arbitrary in my statement. Any intellectual being existing solely within space/time (including physical laws, geometry, etc.) --- cannot be God for the very reason that Physicist gave in explaining why there is no "before" the big bang, i.e. no "south" of the South Pole. If the being only exists "in" space/time, the being cannot be "before" space/time.

The universe can also be seen as outside of space and time.

I am not aware of any Cosmology, Astronomy or Physics which allows this universe to exist except as space/time, e.g. the inflationary model. Space/time is created as the universe expands.

[Junior]

placemarker

[js1138]

I can't spell. I was thinking of this Georg Cantor

[js1138]

If we agree that the universe IS space/time, then there is no point in asking how it was created. It is the same question as asking how God was created. If there is no time outside the existence of the universe, then there is no BEFORE the universe and no reason to attempt to explain its existence. Same goes for
God. There is no rational reason to separate the universe and
God, certainly no evidence.

[B. Rabbit]

There was nothing arbitrary in my statement. Any intellectual being existing solely within space/time (including physical laws, geometry, etc.) --- cannot be God for the very reason that Physicist gave in explaining why there is no "before" the big bang, i.e. no "south" of the South Pole. If the being only exists "in" space/time, the being cannot be "before" space/time. The God of the Old Testament certainly seemed to live in "time" as we know it. In fact, at certain points, he changes his mind. How can that be if he is outside of space/time? Why would he flood the world?

[B. Rabbit]

Sorry, new still...

There was nothing arbitrary in my statement. Any intellectual being existing solely within space/time (including physical laws, geometry, etc.) --- cannot be God for the very reason that Physicist gave in explaining why there is no "before" the big bang, i.e. no "south" of the South Pole. If the being only exists "in" space/time, the being cannot be "before" space/time.

The God of the Old Testament certainly seemed to live in "time" as we know it. In fact, at certain points, he changes his mind. How can that be if he is outside of space/time? Why would he flood the world?