[balrog666]

You take God's non-existence on pure faith friend. Let me prove it to you. Draw a little dot on a piece of paper and let the dot represent you. Now draw a circle around the dot. Let that space within the circle represent ALL of your knowledge. All space OUTSIDE the circle will be all of the knowledge outside of your awareness. We must conclude from this if we be reasonable that your knowledge constitutes a very small fraction of the possible knowledge to be known about the universe (let us say, .0000001%). Now then, I ask you: Is it posssible that God could exist outside of your circle of knowledge?

Very amusing conceit. While there might be room for several gods out there, nothing establishes that your particular BrandName god is there. Isn't that the point of "faith"?

[exmarine]

Very amusing conceit. While there might be room for several gods out there, nothing establishes that your particular BrandName god is there. Isn't that the point of "faith"?

Of course, ultimately I take God's existence on faith. And you take his non-existence on faith. But God is the only explanation for my experience as a man, my hopes, dreams, the love I have for my family, the value of human life - these can only have meaning if God exists. If God doesn't exist friend, then you are no more valuable than a rock, and your thoughts and theories are irrational because they emanate from mere chemical processes in your brain (colliding atoms). Do you live like there is no God? Do you live as if love has no meaning, do you look at your family and think they have value or do you see them as rocks? You see, human experience and life are consistent with the existence of a personal infinite creator God, but is absolutely at odds with a naturalistic material universe. If you want to believe in naturalism and be consistent, then you must deny the mannishness of man - man becomes a meaningless rock, and his hopes, dreams, feelings, desires are mere matter in motion. Care to take this further?