[BibChr]

Once you kick out the walls and give yourself over to allegorizing and spiritualizing, concrete thought can become very difficult. Let me offer help:

1. In Acts, how many times is the word ekklesia used of Israel?
2. In Acts, how many times is the word ekklesia used of a secular political assembly?
3. Which number is the larger number?

Dan

[Jean Chauvin]

"Once you kick out the walls and give yourself over to allegorizing and spiritualizing, concrete thought can become very difficult.

So, do yo believe that Jesus is going to have a really big sword coming out of his mouth per Revelation 19:15?

Do you believe that Jesus is actually a furry little lamb?

Oh -you mean that ~you~ guys get to decide when to use allegory and spiritualizing and when not to -how selective of you.

"Which number is the larger number?"

It's completely irrelevant, Dan. The Acts 19 use of ekklesia is a specific reference to ennomos ekklesia.

The very fact that this is a description of ennomos ekklesia is what makes this a 'lawful' assembly -or as you put it -a "secular political assembly".

If the "ennomos" was not there in the text -it would not be a reference to a "lawful" assembly.

I'll turn your argument right around on you:

1. In Acts, how many times is the word Israel described as ekklesia?
2. In Acts, how many times is the word Israel used of "lawful assembly" or "ennomos ekklesia"?

3. Which number is larger?

It's completely irrelevant, Dan.

Jean