[Aurelius]

"Errors in your response."

I can't, for the life of me, see how your posted comment indicates any errors in my response. On the contrary, the examples that you cite seem to support my contention.

"If people are not responsible for their government, who is?"

What about the government itself?

[breakem]

and who is the givernment?

This line of questioning will lead you to the proper answer. Let's just say that even a loyal army can be effected if their wives. mothers, and themselves want to throw out a tyrant.