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God specifically said to not interfere with a person's beliefs. Not so with drug dealers.

Bollocks. Opium and Hashish have been used in the Middle East going back at least 3,500 years -- since the Jews were still in Egypt, and earlier.

So there were a lot of opium addicts and hashish addicts during Moses' and David's times?

There are 613 juridical Laws in the Old Testament. NOT ONE sanctions State Action against Intoxication. Do you suppose that God just... forgot?

Did he forget about speed limits too?

Earth to #3Fan: Romans 11:4 says not one word about the AntiChrist. It says that God reserved 7,000 togeether with Elijah against the worship of Ba'al. Thousands of years ago.

Baal is antiChrist.

Completed Event. Finis. End of Story. You botched that one rather badly.

You believe that Revelation took place in 70 AD, don't you. I'm not the one that botched things. LOL

It happened in the days of Elijah, just as God said -- unless you're calling Him a Liar.

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Do you agree that Matthew came after Elijah?

Hebrews 10:1-14.

The old testament ordinances were done away with.

Hbr 8:13 In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away.

The commandments and the 'do unto others' applies now, along with God's order to follow civil law.

There isn't any contrary Scripture to cite, you Biblical-Illiterate, because there isn't one word in the entire New Testament which invalidates the Trespass Laws.

Hbr 8:13 In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away.

You do agree that the old covenant has vanished away, don't you? And now Paul says to follow the commandmnets and love your neighbor as yourself.

Ergo, the Laws against Trespass are still in effect -- because there is not one New Testament scripture contrary to them.

It's part of the old covenant.

Cite the verse to which you are referring, please.

Do you have a memory?

Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if [there be] any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

So are Idolaters, Unbelievers, and those who get Intoxicated on their own Private Property -- Neighbors, or aren't they? Since if they are not "neighbors", then the State can throw them in Jail too, eh?? ~~ God specifically said to not interfere with a person's beliefs. Not so with drug dealers.

Matthew 13:24-30 says nothing about "beliefs". It only speaks of not uprooting the Tares.

Ergo, if this Scripture forbids State Actions against Tares who are False Religionists, it likewise forbids State Action against Tares who become Intoxicated on Private Property. There's NO evidence whatsoever in the passage which permits the division you are eisegetically attempting to draw.

Bollocks. Opium and Hashish have been used in the Middle East going back at least 3,500 years -- since the Jews were still in Egypt, and earlier. ~~ So there were a lot of opium addicts and hashish addicts during Moses' and David's times?

As you say, "addiction" is a subjective term.

But Opium and Hashish were in use.

There are 613 juridical Laws in the Old Testament. NOT ONE sanctions State Action against Intoxication. Do you suppose that God just... forgot?

Did he forget about speed limits too?

Already answered. The State cannot set Speed Limits on Private Property, for that would be a Trespass. See NASCAR, for example.

Earth to #3Fan: Romans 11:4 says not one word about the AntiChrist. It says that God reserved 7,000 togeether with Elijah against the worship of Ba'al. Thousands of years ago. ~~ Baal is antiChrist.

Ba'al is one anti-christian fallen spirit; but the specific passage you referenced refers to an Event which happened thousands of years ago, in the Time of Elijah -- unless you are calling God a Liar.

Which means it is NOT a Future Prophecy.

Which means you botched this one ridiculously.

You believe that Revelation took place in 70 AD, don't you. I'm not the one that botched things. LOL

Already answered. See #474.

There isn't any contrary Scripture to cite, you Biblical-Illiterate, because there isn't one word in the entire New Testament which invalidates the Trespass Laws. Hbr 8:13 In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away. ~~ You do agree that the old covenant has vanished away, don't you? And now Paul says to follow the commandmnets and love your neighbor as yourself.

Sorry, there's nothing in Hebrews 8 which states that the Trespass Laws have been eliminated. The passage specifically concerns the Sacrificial Laws (see Hebrews 8:2).

Or do you believe that the Trespass Laws have been eliminated? Do you believe that you NOW have a Moral Right to commit Trespasses, because "the old covenant has vanished away"?

But you just said that, if the State outlaws the Property, then it isn't Theft.

So how was the Nazi State violating the Golden Rule against Theft, when it confiscated Outlawed jewish property? After all, You just said that it isn't Theft if the State outlaws the Property.

So, what are you saying...

The State can't morally Steal someone's intoxicants?
Or, you are saying that it's not theft if the State outlaws the Property??

Well, if that's the case... when Hitler's storm troopers invaded the Private Property of Germany's Jewish population and turned them out of their shops and homes -- were they just, y'know, enforcing the Civil Law against Jews owning private property??

How could they be violating the Golden Rule against Theft?? For after all -- as you say -- it's not theft if the State outlaws the Property??