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Yale libertarian plans drastic 'Free State Project'
Yale Daily News ^ | Wednesday, October 23, 2002 | EMILY ANTHES

Posted on 10/23/2002 1:04:07 AM PDT by Roscoe

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To: Demidog
Why not? You believe that the US government can arrest people for accumulating property. What's the difference? In the case of the Nazi's they legally outlawed Jewish property ownership.

The Nazi government didn't follow God's commandments.

How have American's had a say in the matter of pot and other drugs?

They vote.

541 posted on 11/02/2002 11:57:24 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
I only worry about things that are against God's law.

No you don't. If you don't know where the government of the United States receives it's authority, then you ahve no concern whatsoever about things that are for or against God's law. You wouldn't give a red nickel for God's law.

542 posted on 11/02/2002 11:57:27 PM PST by Demidog
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To: #3Fan
The end will come when wars end.

Your quote says nothing of the sort.

543 posted on 11/02/2002 11:58:42 PM PST by Demidog
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To: #3Fan; Demidog
The Nazi government didn't follow God's commandments.

Historically, neither has the US Government, unless you believe that the Indian Wars were episodes of great Moral Honor on the part on Uncle Sam... forced marches, diseased blankets, massacres and all.

If the US Government has the Moral Right to outlaw property despite its violations of the Commandments of God, why not the Nazis?

544 posted on 11/03/2002 12:01:25 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: #3Fan; Demidog
How have American's had a say in the matter of pot and other drugs? They vote. 541 posted on 11/02/2002 11:57 PM PST by #3Fan

So did the 1930's Germans... they voted for the Nazis.

If the US Government has the Moral Right to outlaw property despite its violations of the Commandments of God, why not the Nazis?

545 posted on 11/03/2002 12:02:36 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: #3Fan
The Nazi government didn't follow God's commandments.

And you're saying the American government does? What's your position on Abortion? Don't take the wheat with the chaffe?

They vote.

In case you hadn't noticed Mr. "I support states rights", in spite of the fact that the people in California voted to legalize marijuana use for medical purposes, the Federal government has decided to ignore the law.

They voted against you. Do you still believe in states rights and "if it's legal" it's ok?

546 posted on 11/03/2002 12:03:34 AM PST by Demidog
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Cite your cross-referential Scriptures and be absolutely specific.

It's cross-referenced all through this thread. We are not to grieve with our teachings, we are not to pluck up the tares.

Cite your cross-referential Scriptures and be absolutely specific.

I have ten times already. Read the thread again.

Maybe, maybe not. They were in use, and God did not authorize State Action against private intoxication.

Nor speeding.

So... did God forget?

Did He forget about speeding?

Demonstrate to me that this sort of thing would not be Murder. I have already demonstrated that the State may intervene to prevent Murder on Private Property.

So gladiator games are OK in your world. LOL Between the handicapped who don't know better?

You're calling God a Liar.

Satan has many names, Baal is one.

Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying, Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. Paul said that this was God's answer to Elijah, thousands of years ago. Was God lying to Elijah??

7000 will stand against the antiChrist in the end.

If your God-State didn't tell you not to Trespass on Private Property, would you have a Moral Right to do so?

No, because I would be violating Paul's commandment.

But you just said that if the State outlaws the property, then it isn't theft.

If the state is of God.

Ergo -- when the Nazis Outlawed the jewish ownership of Property, how were they committing Theft when they confiscated the Property?

The Jews had no say.

The Property in question was Outlawed by the Civil Authority, which had been democratically voted into Power.

They violated Paul's commandment.

So... when Hitler's storm troopers invaded the Private Property of Germany's Jewish population and turned them out of their shops and homes -- were they just, y'know, enforcing the Civil Law against Jews owning private property?? How could they be violating the Golden Rule against Theft?? For after all -- as you say -- it's not theft if the State outlaws the Property??

Answered above in previous posts.

547 posted on 11/03/2002 12:07:28 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; #3Fan
unless you believe that the Indian Wars were episodes of great Moral Honor on the part on Uncle Sam

Isn't "Manifest Destiny" somewhere in the Bible? Perhaps we could find some obscure Hebrew equivalent if we turned it sideways and looked at it squinting through a periscope.

548 posted on 11/03/2002 12:07:47 AM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
You have just called Flavius Josephus an "ignorant liberal." Congratulations.

Quoted by a liberal in error.

549 posted on 11/03/2002 12:08:33 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
The Jews had no say.

You have a vast array of subjects of which you are ignorant and it looks like we can toss in recent history to boot.

The Jews voted. Hitler was elected by a legitimate popular election.

550 posted on 11/03/2002 12:09:27 AM PST by Demidog
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To: #3Fan
"What about Christian Scientists, who don't believe that ANY sort of conventional medicines should be used? Should they do to you that which you want to do to others??"

Through the law, yes. I choose to live in a constitutional republic. It guarantees that I can live around people who believe as I what's good for society. That's why I'm a strong believer in state's rights. 532

You believe that "states rights" gives a majority group of Christian Scientists the power to make 'law' prohibiting ALL 'drugs' in their community?
You don't think these 'laws' would violate the rights of their non scientist neighbors?

551 posted on 11/03/2002 12:10:27 AM PST by tpaine
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To: #3Fan
Quoted by a liberal in error.

You have no shame.

552 posted on 11/03/2002 12:11:44 AM PST by Demidog
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
There's no such thing as the "very elect", the term NEVER occurs in Scripture... not even once.Wrong again. You are biblicallyt illiterate

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

As with much of your "Bible interpretation", you're just making this up.

See above.

If you claim otherwise, cite one verse of Scripture which specifically refers to the "very elect". "Very Elect". ONE verse. Otherwise, you're just fabricating Lies into God's Holy Word.

LOL See above. Hilarious.

553 posted on 11/03/2002 12:12:17 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: Demidog
Is that what it says in the Bible? Can you find any instance of a drug being outlawed in the Bible?

Romans says follow civil law.

554 posted on 11/03/2002 12:13:36 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: Demidog
So you want to outlaw ALL drugs now? Alcohol too?

Pharmaceutical drugs.

555 posted on 11/03/2002 12:14:27 AM PST by #3Fan
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Pharmaceutical drugs.

Not much of a clarification there pal. You want to outlaw all pharmacutical drugs?

556 posted on 11/03/2002 12:15:33 AM PST by Demidog
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To: #3Fan
Can you find any instance of a drug being outlawed in the Bible?

Romans says follow civil law.

Can't answer eh? I thought not.

557 posted on 11/03/2002 12:17:04 AM PST by Demidog
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To: rb22982
All of those numbers are government statistics from the US Department of Health and Human services. I know it's easier for you to discredit something outright instead of looking at the facts as its easier to maintain your ignorant position that way

I see the facts every day.

If you are going to keep alcohol legal, you'd be hypocritical not to consider them to alcohol. Your own personal experience means nothing, and you won't find a study that backs what you are saying save meth and some lesser used drugs which I've already yielded to you

I don't care what liberals say, I vote personal experience on this issue.

558 posted on 11/03/2002 12:17:19 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: Demidog
When did you vote to have meth outlawed?

The people I vote for support it.

559 posted on 11/03/2002 12:18:13 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
The people I vote for support it.

Do you even know who you vote for?

560 posted on 11/03/2002 12:19:20 AM PST by Demidog
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