What do you freepers think? For all you freepers well-versed in the law, is this kind of thing legal?
1 posted on
09/23/2002 1:31:36 PM PDT by
JediGirl
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To: JediGirl
Did they find your dope?
To: JediGirl
What do you freepers think?
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Waste of bandwidth came to mind...
To: JediGirl
2) High School or College? Private or Public?
4 posted on
09/23/2002 1:34:55 PM PDT by
leadpenny
To: JediGirl
When you signed that agreement, did it say anything about searches?
To: JediGirl
You asked the wrong site that one. This site is all about freedom and property rights until you mention the D word. Then it gets downright fascist.
6 posted on
09/23/2002 1:35:30 PM PDT by
krb
To: JediGirl
My evil side tells me that I would have to report that expensive gold chain I had lock in my room is now missing
Other then that you get what you pay for
To: JediGirl
I think you all need to grow up.
8 posted on
09/23/2002 1:37:06 PM PDT by
Illbay
To: JediGirl
If you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about. It is being done for YOUR protection. After all, we live in dangerous times.
9 posted on
09/23/2002 1:38:04 PM PDT by
Seajay
To: JediGirl
Which country?
10 posted on
09/23/2002 1:38:04 PM PDT by
jlogajan
To: JediGirl
In the contract you signed,make sure you read it because you could have given them the right to do that. If not I would think they are wrong to search without a warrant if you are paying for the place in which you stay.Also it is possible there is a state law in your state covering these type situations.Re-read your contract and check the state statues or see an attorney and I hate to advise you do that but you certainly should have some rights.
12 posted on
09/23/2002 1:38:31 PM PDT by
gunnedah
To: JediGirl
JG, I'd like to challenge you to post SOMETHING, ANYTHING that is not drug-related.
13 posted on
09/23/2002 1:38:36 PM PDT by
Illbay
To: JediGirl
Gonna slow down the response time for the next fire drill (or real fire) with all the students now stopping to gather all their dope and paraphernalia.
To: JediGirl
Objectionable, but legal if you agreed to such in writing. But if it's a public school, it could be argued that it violates the 4th amendment.
17 posted on
09/23/2002 1:40:28 PM PDT by
Sloth
To: JediGirl
It's a clear violation of the students' rights - searching without a warrant. It's the same as if they were renting an apartment and the landlord decided to do a warrantless search.
To: JediGirl
The legality will depend to a great extent on the "contract" the student has with the school. I put the word in quotes, because it is a broad concept. It could be specifically a lease for the living quarters or, more broadly, school regulations governing on-campus living. I suspect you will find something in there authorizing the school and its agents (the campus police) to enter into the rooms and conduct this sort of search any time they please.
There can always be issues as to whether a party to a contract freely and knowingly agreed to its terms. These are very fact-specific, and frankly these theories will not often overcome clear contract language, even if that language is tucked away in a sea of verbiage.
Bottom line. It stinks, but there is probably not a whole lot the students can do about it.
20 posted on
09/23/2002 1:41:43 PM PDT by
blau993
To: JediGirl
If it took place in a dorm full of kids under 18, it is the institution's duty to make sure the minors are not participating in illegal activity. I would give every parent the same right and think the school is operating as a proxy for the parents in their absense.
If it is happening to people over 18 it is wrong.
I know a lot of people will disagree with regard to the kids under 18, but I have never felt that kids should be given blanket coverage under the constitution due to parental rights to protect them from themselves until they are of age.
To: JediGirl
First, as has already been pointed out, Freepers are for property rights unless it involves "dope", in which case yer all leftist slacker hippies and should leave the country or die.
Second, unlike a standard rental arrangement, colleges have certain legal obligations related to their students that make them different than a standard landlord. It is because most students are not yet 21 years of age. In some states it is codified as "in loco parentis" or something like that. The bottom line is they do have the right to search the dorm rooms, and if you don't like it you can find an apartment off campus. For example, depending on the laws of your state and municipality, you have the right to store:
(a) a handgun,
(b) an automobile flare,
(c) a bottle of wine,
(d) a coffemaker,
(e) a microwave
in your apartment off campus, but possibly none of those in your dorm room.
To: JediGirl; Admin Moderator
AM, I would think if you put this thread on the back burner and left the "Who's your favorite FOX personality thread" on the main board, you're dealing in a double standard. IMO.
To: JediGirl
#22 hit the nail on the head ,as to all these "WOD" pruds they smoke there own weed ......."egotistical self-rightiousness" in there "smugness pipes"
45 posted on
09/23/2002 4:18:20 PM PDT by
gdc61
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Undercover cops disguised as pizza delivery guys would suck.
46 posted on
09/23/2002 5:22:56 PM PDT by
Huck
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