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Ron Paul: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq
House Floor ^ | 10 Sept 02 | Dr. Ron Paul

Posted on 09/10/2002 12:57:09 PM PDT by Zviadist

Congressman Ron Paul
U.S. House of Representatives
September 10, 2002

QUESTIONS THAT WON'T BE ASKED ABOUT IRAQ

Soon we hope to have hearings on the pending war with Iraq. I am concerned there are some questions that won’t be asked- and maybe will not even be allowed to be asked. Here are some questions I would like answered by those who are urging us to start this war.

1. Is it not true that the reason we did not bomb the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War was because we knew they could retaliate?

2. Is it not also true that we are willing to bomb Iraq now because we know it cannot retaliate- which just confirms that there is no real threat?

3. Is it not true that those who argue that even with inspections we cannot be sure that Hussein might be hiding weapons, at the same time imply that we can be more sure that weapons exist in the absence of inspections?

4. Is it not true that the UN’s International Atomic Energy Agency was able to complete its yearly verification mission to Iraq just this year with Iraqi cooperation?

5. Is it not true that the intelligence community has been unable to develop a case tying Iraq to global terrorism at all, much less the attacks on the United States last year? Does anyone remember that 15 of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia and that none came from Iraq?

6. Was former CIA counter-terrorism chief Vincent Cannistraro wrong when he recently said there is no confirmed evidence of Iraq’s links to terrorism?

7. Is it not true that the CIA has concluded there is no evidence that a Prague meeting between 9/11 hijacker Atta and Iraqi intelligence took place?

8. Is it not true that northern Iraq, where the administration claimed al-Qaeda were hiding out, is in the control of our "allies," the Kurds?

9. Is it not true that the vast majority of al-Qaeda leaders who escaped appear to have safely made their way to Pakistan, another of our so-called allies?

10. Has anyone noticed that Afghanistan is rapidly sinking into total chaos, with bombings and assassinations becoming daily occurrences; and that according to a recent UN report the al-Qaeda "is, by all accounts, alive and well and poised to strike again, how, when, and where it chooses"

11. Why are we taking precious military and intelligence resources away from tracking down those who did attack the United States- and who may again attack the United States- and using them to invade countries that have not attacked the United States?

12. Would an attack on Iraq not just confirm the Arab world's worst suspicions about the US- and isn't this what bin Laden wanted?

13. How can Hussein be compared to Hitler when he has no navy or air force, and now has an army 1/5 the size of twelve years ago, which even then proved totally inept at defending the country?

14. Is it not true that the constitutional power to declare war is exclusively that of the Congress? Should presidents, contrary to the Constitution, allow Congress to concur only when pressured by public opinion? Are presidents permitted to rely on the UN for permission to go to war?

15. Are you aware of a Pentagon report studying charges that thousands of Kurds in one village were gassed by the Iraqis, which found no conclusive evidence that Iraq was responsible, that Iran occupied the very city involved, and that evidence indicated the type of gas used was more likely controlled by Iran not Iraq?

16. Is it not true that anywhere between 100,000 and 300,000 US soldiers have suffered from Persian Gulf War syndrome from the first Gulf War, and that thousands may have died?

17. Are we prepared for possibly thousands of American casualties in a war against a country that does not have the capacity to attack the United States?

18. Are we willing to bear the economic burden of a 100 billion dollar war against Iraq, with oil prices expected to skyrocket and further rattle an already shaky American economy? How about an estimated 30 years occupation of Iraq that some have deemed necessary to "build democracy" there?

19. Iraq’s alleged violations of UN resolutions are given as reason to initiate an attack, yet is it not true that hundreds of UN Resolutions have been ignored by various countries without penalty?

20. Did former President Bush not cite the UN Resolution of 1990 as the reason he could not march into Baghdad, while supporters of a new attack assert that it is the very reason we can march into Baghdad?

21. Is it not true that, contrary to current claims, the no-fly zones were set up by Britain and the United States without specific approval from the United Nations?

22. If we claim membership in the international community and conform to its rules only when it pleases us, does this not serve to undermine our position, directing animosity toward us by both friend and foe?

23. How can our declared goal of bringing democracy to Iraq be believable when we prop up dictators throughout the Middle East and support military tyrants like Musharaf in Pakistan, who overthrew a democratically-elected president?

24. Are you familiar with the 1994 Senate Hearings that revealed the U.S. knowingly supplied chemical and biological materials to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war and as late as 1992- including after the alleged Iraqi gas attack on a Kurdish village?

25. Did we not assist Saddam Hussein’s rise to power by supporting and encouraging his invasion of Iran? Is it honest to criticize Saddam now for his invasion of Iran, which at the time we actively supported?

26. Is it not true that preventive war is synonymous with an act of aggression, and has never been considered a moral or legitimate US policy?

27. Why do the oil company executives strongly support this war if oil is not the real reason we plan to take over Iraq?

28. Why is it that those who never wore a uniform and are confident that they won’t have to personally fight this war are more anxious for this war than our generals?

29. What is the moral argument for attacking a nation that has not initiated aggression against us, and could not if it wanted?

30. Where does the Constitution grant us permission to wage war for any reason other than self-defense?

31. Is it not true that a war against Iraq rejects the sentiments of the time-honored Treaty of Westphalia, nearly 400 years ago, that countries should never go into another for the purpose of regime change?

32. Is it not true that the more civilized a society is, the less likely disagreements will be settled by war?

33. Is it not true that since World War II Congress has not declared war and- not coincidentally- we have not since then had a clear-cut victory?

34. Is it not true that Pakistan, especially through its intelligence services, was an active supporter and key organizer of the Taliban?

35. Why don't those who want war bring a formal declaration of war resolution to the floor of Congress?


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To: copycat
Looks like Congress gave The President the power to determine who he would use force against.

So when Hillary wins the 2008 election (or some future liberal we all hate) are you going to be singing the same tune?

581 posted on 09/10/2002 10:50:48 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: Texasforever
It's not BS. It's a fact. Paul votes against a spending increase, with the tax cut, and is counted as 'liberal' by the ACU because Republicans supported it. Of course Dems vote no because they want even more money. Of course as someone else pointed out, the ACU just selectively picks votes. For example in 2001, 3 of the 24 were all on the exact same thing, just slight variations of the bill. IMO that's not a fair way to judge.
582 posted on 09/10/2002 10:54:48 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: Texasforever
Actually you got me wrong, I'm in favor of going to war with Iraq (mainly for the other stuff you listed), my question was where has the administration claimed Iraq was involved in the terrorist attacks, specifically in 9/11.
583 posted on 09/10/2002 10:56:00 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: tpaine
Plagiarism is a crime.
584 posted on 09/10/2002 10:57:02 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: rb22982
correction. 3/24 of the senate votes they choose were the same thign.
585 posted on 09/10/2002 11:02:52 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: Texasforever
For examples see bills 6&7 together in 2000, and #15, and #2. He opposed 6 & 2 due to increased budget spending, and 15 because it kept it even, but voted for #6, which actually cut spending and gave back far larger tax cuts. Then 2 of the votes were just for lifting the Cuban embargo because he supports Free Trade which is generally approved of by Conservatives except Buchananites. That's 5 votes right there for just 2000 and 2001.
586 posted on 09/10/2002 11:09:05 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982
Look, I have been around Ron Paul for years. He is basically harmless but the guy is a fraud. He can only win his pitiful seat by claiming to be republican and all the while associating himself with the likes of Harry Browne. He is a REAL Rino. He has made his reputation on making long-winded speeches castigating every one but him. He is Jim Trafficant with better hair. He has carved out his little niche of those that have spent their entire lives being pissed off about the "gubberment". He plays you guys like a fiddle. Ron Paul is NOT a conservative or anything else he is just an every day career political opportunist the same as all of those he claims to despise.
587 posted on 09/10/2002 11:09:16 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: rb22982
Should read.....#2 in 2001.....
588 posted on 09/10/2002 11:10:54 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: one_particular_harbour
Where is the Barf Alert? When I read the the header I thought the name was Rue Paul - the transvestite that ran for mayor of Palm Springs. It makes me sick that we have people like this serving in our congress.
589 posted on 09/10/2002 11:12:07 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: Texasforever
Nonsense. Just because he doesn't tow the party line doesn't make him more or less a conservative. R != conservative no matter how much you want him to be.

Besides, even with an 85% lifetime rating, thats a hell of a lot closer to conservative than liberal.

590 posted on 09/10/2002 11:13:05 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: Texasforever
Jail me, motherforever.
592 posted on 09/10/2002 11:14:55 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: takenoprisoner; Askel5
FYI - The quote earlier was from a letter he wrote in 1816; Details at the end of letter. I have found this quoted all over the place recently, notably used in support of an Alaskan constitutional convention and San Fernando Valley seccession from LA.

I get frustrated when I hear people talk about how x or y isn't in line with the constitution. The truth is a-z isn't in line. What has frustrated me about the libertarian argument is that it is never paired with a realistic path to actually implementing the ideals.

I think that a constitutional convention would be a very good thing to 'refresh' the constitution....

"But it will be said, it is easier to find faults than to amend them. I do not think their amendment so difficult as is pretended. Only lay down true principles, and adhere to them inflexibly. Do not be frightened into their surrender by the alarms of the timid, or the croakings of wealth against the ascendency of the people...

"Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence, and deem them like the arc of the covenant, too sacred to be touched. They ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human, and suppose that what they did to be beyond amendment. I knew that age well; I belonged to it, and labored with it... I think moderate imperfections had better be borne with; because, when once known, we accommodate ourselves to them, and find practical means of correcting their ill effects. But I know also, that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed, and manners and opinions change with the circumstances, institutions must advance also, and keep pace with the times...

"Let us follow no such examples (of the European monarchs), nor weakly believe that one generation is not as capable as another of taking care of itself, and of ordering its own affairs. Let us, as our sister States have done, avail ourselves of our reason and experience, to correct the crude essays of our first and unexperienced, although wise, virtuous, and well-meaning councils. And lastly, let us provide in our constitution for its revision at stated periods. What these periods should be nature herself indicates. By the European tables of mortality, of the adults living at any one moment of time, a majority will be dead in about nineteen years. At the end of that period, then, a new majority is come into place; or, in other words, a new generation. Each generation is as independent as the one preceding, as that was of all which had gone before. It has then, like them, a right to choose for itself the form of government it believes most promotive of its own happiness; consequently, to accommodate to the circumstances in which it finds itself, that received from its predecessors; and it is for the peace and good of mankind, that a solemn opportunity of doing this every nineteen or twenty years, should be provided by the constitution; so that it may be handed on, with periodical repairs, from generation to generation, to the end of time, if anything human can so long endure."

"Thomas Jefferson, "Letter to Samuel Kercheval", Monticello, July 12, 1816, in The Portable Thomas Jefferson, ed. Merill D. Peterson (Harmondsworth: Penguin, 1979), pp. 1397-1402.

593 posted on 09/10/2002 11:16:39 PM PDT by Isle of sanity in CA
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To: rb22982
Besides, even with an 85% lifetime rating, thats a hell of a lot closer to conservative than liberal.

His ratings are dropping like a stone. That 85% is based on his 11 years in office. He has gone from 76 to 70 in two years. If he is re-elected, and that is no lock, he will be at the same level as Kennedy by the end of his term. The man is losing it.

594 posted on 09/10/2002 11:17:17 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Part of the reason his ratings are dropping is because the Republicans are increasing government as well. When its a Dem WH, of course the republicans 'oppose it.' Throw in those extra 5 votes I pointed out which gives him another 20% /2 =10% for each year. No libertarian or libertarian leaning could ever vote like a kennedy despite your idiotic claims.
595 posted on 09/10/2002 11:20:58 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: tpaine
Jail me, motherforever.

Hell I am not sure you aren't posting from Folsom right now.

596 posted on 09/10/2002 11:24:36 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Isle of sanity in CA
I hadn't seen that either. I know he said something like we need a revolution every once in a while. LOL
597 posted on 09/10/2002 11:50:01 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: FreedomFriend
Isolationism? Is that a bad thing? Are you in favor of Globalism?
Isolationism is unrealistic. It was never US policy. (with the exception of Jefferson's disastrioust non-intercourse strategy, which crippled the economy).
An objective assement of US foreign policy in the 19th century (to say nothing of constant warring with Indian tribes) shows unilateral expansionism and an immediate assertion of Us power to protect US interests abroad. (Go pick up The Savage Wars of Peace by Max Boot. You can disagree with his thesis but not the existance of the campaigns) It is a False dichotomy, if not a prelude to a straw-man arguement to presume that the only choices are isolationism and Globalism.

There are other options like a rational assesment of US policy to promote US interests in a vigorous manner, whether in a unilateralist or multi-lateralist manner. We excercise our rights and obligations as a sovereign nation and ignore unConstution arraingements like the UN.
Ron
PS. I would also note that the GLobalist elite are the most vocal opponents of action against Iraq.
598 posted on 09/11/2002 12:19:26 AM PDT by rmlew
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To: Texasforever
If he is re-elected, and that is no lock, he will be at the same level as Kennedy by the end of his term. The man is losing it.

Against Corby Windham ??? You've got to be kidding ?
Ron Paul will walk all over him.

Rep. Paul never cared for the Rockefeller Republicrats; what's a couple of points on the ACU rating ...

599 posted on 09/11/2002 12:58:43 AM PDT by dread78645
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To: rb22982
So when Hillary wins the 2008 election (or some future liberal we all hate) are you going to be singing the same tune?

God Forbid.

If Congress grants Hillary the power to determine whom to use force against, I would recognize that fact also. Then I would damn Congress.

600 posted on 09/11/2002 4:13:05 AM PDT by copycat
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