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Ron Paul: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq
House Floor ^ | 10 Sept 02 | Dr. Ron Paul

Posted on 09/10/2002 12:57:09 PM PDT by Zviadist

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To: CharacterCounts
First time I have ever beeb accused of being a liberal. But then I just consider the source.

To a Bircher EVERYONE is a liberal.

361 posted on 09/10/2002 6:20:45 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: copycat
"Germany, Britain, and Saudi Arabia were not "harboring" AQ operatives."

Saudi Arabia wasn't harboring AQ operatives? Geez, I wonder why 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis?
362 posted on 09/10/2002 6:20:59 PM PDT by Mark Bahner
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To: Texasforever
The Geneva convention also does not extend protections to combatants not in identifiable uniform. Those combatants are subject to summary execution.

Summary executions are cool. :^)

363 posted on 09/10/2002 6:21:01 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Texasforever
Is that florid in the koolaide?
364 posted on 09/10/2002 6:21:27 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Mark Bahner
Where does the Constitution state that the Congress must declare war (authorize the use of force) against nations only? It only says they have the power to declare war (authorize the use of force.) They have done so.
365 posted on 09/10/2002 6:21:32 PM PDT by copycat
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To: CWOJackson
Is that florid in the koolaide?

I have been waiting for 40 years for the all clear on Fluoride. I am getting very thirsty.

366 posted on 09/10/2002 6:23:17 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Mark Bahner
Harboring, Mark...............words matter, remember?

Harboring.
367 posted on 09/10/2002 6:24:06 PM PDT by justshe
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To: Texasforever
Damn, I guess I made that florid flouride...kind of fitting. I still say this is the result of wheening them too soon.
368 posted on 09/10/2002 6:24:25 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: #3Fan
The Constitution says our president is responsible for the defense of the Constitution. Why does Paul want to rely on U.N. reports?

The Constitution states that Congress is responsible for declaring war, not the President. Until detailed U.S. reports are made available to Congress Paul will have to make do with what is available. In other words he doesn't just take the word of the Administration, unlike many sheeples on this site.

369 posted on 09/10/2002 6:24:38 PM PDT by FreeLibertarian
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To: Mark Bahner
OK mister literal one, Tell me where in this language it is required that the U.S. can only declare war against a government:

Section. 8. The Congress shall have Power ...To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

370 posted on 09/10/2002 6:25:09 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: one_particular_harbour
You ever gotten enough info to put forth a valid educated
guess about a given situation? If you're like me, you have to do that
daily.

The art of management is making irrevocable decisions
based on insufficient information.   You betcha.  And
over the years, I finally got to where I was more often
right than wrong.

The administration has not produced sufficient
linkage between Iraq and 9/11 to justify our
invasion and overthrow of that regime.

Hell, even LBJ had to have his Tonkin.
It takes more that a gut feeling of the
chief executive...or so the Constitution
says, not that that matters anymore.

371 posted on 09/10/2002 6:25:12 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Mark Bahner
Saudi Arabia wasn't harboring AQ operatives? Geez, I wonder why 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis?

You argue like a teenager. (Are you?) To my knowledge, Saudi Arabia was not "harboring" Al Queda operatives.

harbor

\Har"bor\, v. t. [Written also harbour.] [imp. & p. p. Harbored; p. pr. & vb. n. Harboring.] [OE. herberen, herberwen, herbergen; cf. Icel. herbergja. See Harbor, n.] To afford lodging to; to enter as guest; to receive; to give a refuge to; indulge or cherish (a thought or feeling, esp. an ill thought).

372 posted on 09/10/2002 6:25:46 PM PDT by copycat
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To: FreeLibertarian
The Constitution states that Congress is responsible for declaring war, not the President. Until detailed U.S. reports are made available to Congress Paul will have to make do with what is available. In other words he doesn't just take the word of the Administration, unlike many sheeples on this site.

Show me where the Constitution says the president may not defend this country without a declaration of war frm Congress.

373 posted on 09/10/2002 6:26:39 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: gcruse
The administration has not produced sufficient linkage between Iraq and 9/11 to justify our invasion and overthrow of that regime.

No linkage is required by the joint resolution.

374 posted on 09/10/2002 6:26:43 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: #3Fan
"If the Geneva Convention says that the president can't protect this country against people and our Constitution says our president has a duty to protect out Constitution agains all enemies, then our Constitution rules."

The Constitution says our president's duty is to protect the ***Constitution*** not The People.

The ***Constitution*** doesn't give the President the power to wage war without a Congressional declaration of war. The president's OATH is to follow the Constitution.

President Bush (like all Presidents of the 20th century) massively violates the Constitution.

375 posted on 09/10/2002 6:26:49 PM PDT by Mark Bahner
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To: UbIwerks
You Libertarians are in favor of child molestation. Who are you guys to talk about chickenhawks?

Why are you trying to change the subject? What has a chickenhawk got to do with child molestation? Are you sure you're on the correct web-site? Maybe you thought you were on a kiddy porn site.

376 posted on 09/10/2002 6:28:16 PM PDT by FreeLibertarian
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To: #3Fan
Please elaborate. I thought it was taxation without representation. The founding fathers were actually more worried about what Great Britain was doing in India and Australia, etc.?

I'm not saying that necessarily. But are you suggesting that one farseeing intent of the Founders was to establish an Empire much in the same format of that which they left? Maybe for the Hamiltonian kooks it may be, but for the rest of them, even most Federalists, it was to be a loose fitting union with little power at the top. Even your Federalist papers would point that out. The Republic as was established IS gone forever. What do we have left? Nothing that the Founders would approve of

377 posted on 09/10/2002 6:29:14 PM PDT by billbears
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To: copycat
harbor \Har"bor\, v. t. [Written also harbour.] [imp. & p. p. Harbored; p. pr. & vb. n. Harboring.] [OE. herberen, herberwen, herbergen; cf. Icel. herbergja. See Harbor, n.] To afford lodging to; to enter as guest; to receive; to give a refuge to; indulge or cherish (a thought or feeling, esp. an ill thought).

No, according to Andy Rooney, a harbor is a body of water that accommodates ships and a body of water only.

378 posted on 09/10/2002 6:29:22 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: billbears
post 35. is there an unabridged consitution I can play with. LMAO
379 posted on 09/10/2002 6:29:45 PM PDT by aSkeptic
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To: FreeLibertarian
The Constitution states that Congress is responsible for declaring war,

No it does NOT. It only gives the Congress the power to do so and Congress can exercise that POWER in any way it deems appropriate which means it can authorize the President to take military action via an authorizing statute.

380 posted on 09/10/2002 6:29:48 PM PDT by Texasforever
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