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Ron Paul: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq
House Floor ^ | 10 Sept 02 | Dr. Ron Paul

Posted on 09/10/2002 12:57:09 PM PDT by Zviadist

Congressman Ron Paul
U.S. House of Representatives
September 10, 2002

QUESTIONS THAT WON'T BE ASKED ABOUT IRAQ

Soon we hope to have hearings on the pending war with Iraq. I am concerned there are some questions that won’t be asked- and maybe will not even be allowed to be asked. Here are some questions I would like answered by those who are urging us to start this war.

1. Is it not true that the reason we did not bomb the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War was because we knew they could retaliate?

2. Is it not also true that we are willing to bomb Iraq now because we know it cannot retaliate- which just confirms that there is no real threat?

3. Is it not true that those who argue that even with inspections we cannot be sure that Hussein might be hiding weapons, at the same time imply that we can be more sure that weapons exist in the absence of inspections?

4. Is it not true that the UN’s International Atomic Energy Agency was able to complete its yearly verification mission to Iraq just this year with Iraqi cooperation?

5. Is it not true that the intelligence community has been unable to develop a case tying Iraq to global terrorism at all, much less the attacks on the United States last year? Does anyone remember that 15 of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia and that none came from Iraq?

6. Was former CIA counter-terrorism chief Vincent Cannistraro wrong when he recently said there is no confirmed evidence of Iraq’s links to terrorism?

7. Is it not true that the CIA has concluded there is no evidence that a Prague meeting between 9/11 hijacker Atta and Iraqi intelligence took place?

8. Is it not true that northern Iraq, where the administration claimed al-Qaeda were hiding out, is in the control of our "allies," the Kurds?

9. Is it not true that the vast majority of al-Qaeda leaders who escaped appear to have safely made their way to Pakistan, another of our so-called allies?

10. Has anyone noticed that Afghanistan is rapidly sinking into total chaos, with bombings and assassinations becoming daily occurrences; and that according to a recent UN report the al-Qaeda "is, by all accounts, alive and well and poised to strike again, how, when, and where it chooses"

11. Why are we taking precious military and intelligence resources away from tracking down those who did attack the United States- and who may again attack the United States- and using them to invade countries that have not attacked the United States?

12. Would an attack on Iraq not just confirm the Arab world's worst suspicions about the US- and isn't this what bin Laden wanted?

13. How can Hussein be compared to Hitler when he has no navy or air force, and now has an army 1/5 the size of twelve years ago, which even then proved totally inept at defending the country?

14. Is it not true that the constitutional power to declare war is exclusively that of the Congress? Should presidents, contrary to the Constitution, allow Congress to concur only when pressured by public opinion? Are presidents permitted to rely on the UN for permission to go to war?

15. Are you aware of a Pentagon report studying charges that thousands of Kurds in one village were gassed by the Iraqis, which found no conclusive evidence that Iraq was responsible, that Iran occupied the very city involved, and that evidence indicated the type of gas used was more likely controlled by Iran not Iraq?

16. Is it not true that anywhere between 100,000 and 300,000 US soldiers have suffered from Persian Gulf War syndrome from the first Gulf War, and that thousands may have died?

17. Are we prepared for possibly thousands of American casualties in a war against a country that does not have the capacity to attack the United States?

18. Are we willing to bear the economic burden of a 100 billion dollar war against Iraq, with oil prices expected to skyrocket and further rattle an already shaky American economy? How about an estimated 30 years occupation of Iraq that some have deemed necessary to "build democracy" there?

19. Iraq’s alleged violations of UN resolutions are given as reason to initiate an attack, yet is it not true that hundreds of UN Resolutions have been ignored by various countries without penalty?

20. Did former President Bush not cite the UN Resolution of 1990 as the reason he could not march into Baghdad, while supporters of a new attack assert that it is the very reason we can march into Baghdad?

21. Is it not true that, contrary to current claims, the no-fly zones were set up by Britain and the United States without specific approval from the United Nations?

22. If we claim membership in the international community and conform to its rules only when it pleases us, does this not serve to undermine our position, directing animosity toward us by both friend and foe?

23. How can our declared goal of bringing democracy to Iraq be believable when we prop up dictators throughout the Middle East and support military tyrants like Musharaf in Pakistan, who overthrew a democratically-elected president?

24. Are you familiar with the 1994 Senate Hearings that revealed the U.S. knowingly supplied chemical and biological materials to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war and as late as 1992- including after the alleged Iraqi gas attack on a Kurdish village?

25. Did we not assist Saddam Hussein’s rise to power by supporting and encouraging his invasion of Iran? Is it honest to criticize Saddam now for his invasion of Iran, which at the time we actively supported?

26. Is it not true that preventive war is synonymous with an act of aggression, and has never been considered a moral or legitimate US policy?

27. Why do the oil company executives strongly support this war if oil is not the real reason we plan to take over Iraq?

28. Why is it that those who never wore a uniform and are confident that they won’t have to personally fight this war are more anxious for this war than our generals?

29. What is the moral argument for attacking a nation that has not initiated aggression against us, and could not if it wanted?

30. Where does the Constitution grant us permission to wage war for any reason other than self-defense?

31. Is it not true that a war against Iraq rejects the sentiments of the time-honored Treaty of Westphalia, nearly 400 years ago, that countries should never go into another for the purpose of regime change?

32. Is it not true that the more civilized a society is, the less likely disagreements will be settled by war?

33. Is it not true that since World War II Congress has not declared war and- not coincidentally- we have not since then had a clear-cut victory?

34. Is it not true that Pakistan, especially through its intelligence services, was an active supporter and key organizer of the Taliban?

35. Why don't those who want war bring a formal declaration of war resolution to the floor of Congress?


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To: Mark Bahner
Under your interpretation of the Constitution, we are powerless to stop terrorists.
341 posted on 09/10/2002 6:10:45 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: justshe
Thanks. Mark is working from an abysmal knowledge of things he claims expertise in.
342 posted on 09/10/2002 6:11:56 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Mark Bahner
That's right. We can not be at war with Al Qaida, under the U.S. Constitution. Any more than we can be at war with drugs.

Show me where the Constitution says this.

No, the declaration of war clause is ALSO a check and balance.

Show me where the Constitution says this.

Congress can declare war, but can't wage war. The President can wage war, but only after a Congressional declaration of war.

Prove it.

Any other interpretation renders the Congressional "power" to declare war completely impotent.

Your opinion. If the Congress declares war and the president doesn't act as Commander in Chief, then the Congress can impeach him for it.

As I just wrote, if that is NOT the case, then the Congressional "power" to declare war is rendered completely impotent.

I don't want your rationale, I want specific verses from the Constitution that says the president may not defend this country with a declaration of war from Congress.

Read the Constitution. Both the Constitution and treaties (e.g., the Geneva Convention) are the Supreme Law of the Land. Article VI of the Constitution. Read and learn.

Article VI says state Constitutions do not overrule the Constitution. If the Geneva Convention says that the president can't protect this country against people and our Constitution says our president has a duty to protect out Constitution agains all enemies, then our Constitution rules.

343 posted on 09/10/2002 6:12:18 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Texasforever
You have yet to reply to my challenge to find in the constitution a congressional REQUIREMENT for declaring war and the wording that must be used

Don't let your hair grow until he gets back to you on that one.

344 posted on 09/10/2002 6:12:47 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: copycat
I disagree. Semantics is the last refuge of those who are losing arguments (It depends on what your meaning of is, is). I would say that the power to declare war and the power to authorize the use of force are pretty much the sane thing

They are the same thing. The Constitution does not have to be read so literally that the authorization has to say Declaration of War.

345 posted on 09/10/2002 6:13:15 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: Spirited
doubleplusungood duckspeaker!
346 posted on 09/10/2002 6:13:33 PM PDT by aSkeptic
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To: Mark Bahner
There were Al Queda operatives in Germany. And Britain. (And most certainly Saudi Arabia!) Did the Congressional authorization allow Bush wage war on Germany, Britain, and Saudi Arabia?

Germany, Britain, and Saudi Arabia were not "harboring" AQ operatives. The Taliban was.

347 posted on 09/10/2002 6:13:50 PM PDT by copycat
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To: Texasforever
So I see.

Armchair constitutionalists who have had their briefings re: THE TRUTH.........from GOD ON HIGH......are being outed daily here.
348 posted on 09/10/2002 6:14:23 PM PDT by justshe
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To: jwalsh07
"Make my day Mark. Tell me this is the platform that Libertarians across America are running on this election cycle and the next."

Your day is already made, Jwalsh07. Your law-breaking, freedom-despising Republicans will probably win in most cases, independent of the fact that Libertarians will run in support of the Constitution. Because most conservatives don't care about The Law or freedom, and so will vote Republican.
349 posted on 09/10/2002 6:14:30 PM PDT by Mark Bahner
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To: #3Fan
If the Geneva Convention

The Geneva convention also does not extend protections to combatants not in identifiable uniform. Those combatants are subject to summary execution.

350 posted on 09/10/2002 6:15:05 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: CharacterCounts
"The Constitution does not have to be read so literally..."

Spoken like a true liberal!
352 posted on 09/10/2002 6:15:24 PM PDT by Mark Bahner
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To: Mark Bahner
First time I have ever beeb accused of being a liberal. But then I just consider the source.
353 posted on 09/10/2002 6:16:31 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: CharacterCounts
A more appropriate analogy would be:

1. Isn't it tru after World War I, Germany was prohibited from re-militarizing itself? (like Iraq)

2. Isn't it true that in the 1930's Germany began to aquire military weaponry which violated its traety commitments? (like Iraq)

3. Isn't it true that in 1936 Germany was still comparatively weak as opposed to France and Britain? (like Iraq is to the U.S.)

4. Isn't it true that most of the european leaders knew that Germany was becoming a threat in 1936? (like Iraq)

5. Isn't it true that France and Britain did nothing while Germany continued to expand its military capabilities?

6. Isn't it true that millions of lives coud have been saved if France and Britain had forced a regime change in Germany in 1936, while Germany was much less of a threat. I wonder when some people will get the picture? 3,000 lives were not enough to open these eyes? What will it take, 30,000, 300,000, 3 millon?

7. Isn't it true that Saddam's personal actions -- his brutal suppression of all opposition, his summary execution of those who displease him (sometimes by his own hand), his use of his Republican Guard (compare to Hitler's SS), his willingness to "annex" his neighbors (as demonstrated by his military annexation of Kuwait), his "vision" of expansion, and his dreams of personal grandeur (he is to be the new Saladin, as Hitler was to have his Third Reich) -- isn't it true that all of these are entirely Hitleresque?

354 posted on 09/10/2002 6:16:53 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: Mark Bahner
Mark, the "constitution" you keep referring to has not been written yet.
356 posted on 09/10/2002 6:17:43 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Mark Bahner
Any legitimate reading of the Constitution and the Geneva Convention show that U.S. law prohibits the U.S. government from waging war on civilians.

Civilians don't declare jihad on America and kill your fellow citizens. A declaration of jihad releases America from not making war on terrorists. Look it up, it's in Al Qaeda's Constitution and the Kabul Convention.

357 posted on 09/10/2002 6:18:34 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: copycat
"What part of that are you having trouble with?"

Only the parts that violate the Constitution, i.e.:

"...those nations, ORGANIZATIONS, OR PERSONS [THE PRESIDENT] determines planned,..."




358 posted on 09/10/2002 6:18:53 PM PDT by Mark Bahner
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To: Mark Bahner
Because most conservatives don't care about The Law or freedom,

Another lie Mark, you're on a roll tonight.

359 posted on 09/10/2002 6:19:48 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: john in missouri
isn't it true that all of these are entirely Hitleresque?

It is!

360 posted on 09/10/2002 6:20:35 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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