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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Gotta weigh in on this.

1) No matter how you cut it, something cannot come out of nothing. The evolutionists who claim that there was nothing there, and then suddenly there was, are either a few blades short of a propellor or insane. The thing that was made cannot be a part of its own making. It is logically impossible.

2) The whole evolution research (if you'll permit a horselaugh at this point) is working backwards, kind of like detectives trying to find out how someone was murdered. Problem is, there is so much sloppiness on dates, how long something might take, and whatnot, that exactness is impossible. Moreover, evolution cannot stand up to the scientific method because it is *not* repeatable.

3) Any attempt that Arric2000 might say about diversity within the scientific community is a fraud. There are a lot of theories out there from well-esablished people who are shunned because the theories don't fit the norm. One guy, for example, makes a great case for the core of the earth being a nuclear pile about 5-8 miles in diameter, but the *new* textbook on earth science I've seen ignores this fact, even though the theories been around for years. Open minds? Don't hold your breath, pal.

In a book "Bones of Contention," it is stated (and not disproved by anyone I've read critiquing it) that the skulls, etc., that the scientists "study" are actually resin casts of the original. The bone evidence is scant, and when set against other evidence, shows that any kind of "evolution" was not progressive, and that there were different kinds of alleged ancestors living in the same locale at the same time. Yet we're supposed to sit back and let our kids be subjected to such unscientific drivel? I think not.

The public schools need to expose kids to both sides of the issue. There are too many holes in the theory of evolution to present it as a law (like the law of gravity, which is repeatable) or a fact (like chickens lay eggs). Who knows? Maybe our kids might come out of schools actually able to look at an issue and think about it.

One more thing. Given the millions of steps for evolution to occur, I submit this Triple Dog Dare to Arrac2000 (or whatever the name is) and to other proponents of evolution: Get a tupperware bowl and lid, or a butter tub, or something with a lid. Take apart a Lego minifig (head, torso, legs)and put pieces in bowl. Cover with lid and shake. Check every 5 seconds. Let me know when the parts come together to "evolve" into a fully-made, fully-functional minifig. I won't hold my breath.

52 posted on 09/08/2002 12:02:00 PM PDT by Othniel
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To: Othniel
Well said. I would add that evolution is in essence a forensic science, and will by its nature always be a speculative. Evolution is a scholastic endeavor where creative (pun intended) minds attempt to reconstruct past, unrepeatable singularities. These singularities, such as much of the fossil record, are indeed facts. However, like all facts, they are subject to interpretation unless they can be repeated and verified to the satisfaction of all would-be skeptics. The proponants of the theory of evolution cannot do this. Unfortunately, they insist that only their interpretation of these past events be included in the classroom, compounding the problem with their unwillingness to include an accounting of the many holes and inconsistencies in the theory of evolution. Surely, a thorough text can be produced which could address these issues without doing violence to science or religion.
67 posted on 09/08/2002 12:35:03 PM PDT by diode
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To: Othniel
Any attempt that Arric2000 might say about diversity within the scientific community is a fraud. There are a lot of theories out there from well-esablished people who are shunned because the theories don't fit the norm.

When I was in high school there were two ideas in the scientific community on continental evolution. One was that the continents had always been exactly where they were, undergoing little change over hundreds of millions of years. This was the accepted theory. They other theory was that of 'Continental Drift', that the continents had originally been one, and divided and grew apart over time. It had been theorized, because so many continental outlines seemed to fit together (especially South America and Africa). It was not accepted, because of the obvious fact that rock is solid, and would be fractured apart if moved.

Then in the late 1950's the ocean bottoms were researched as never before, especially in the International Geophysical Year of 1958. They discovered the ridges in the Ocean which fit exactly between the continents. The theory of plate techtonics was devised, explaining how the continents could move. Animal evolution, with continuous species across apparent Ocean boundaries provided more evidence. Now everyone accepts continental drift. EXCEPT the survivors from science before that time. They do not accept continental drift. They will not, until they die. This is the way science actually changes.

68 posted on 09/08/2002 12:40:06 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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