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To: Tennessee_Bob
OK, so the theory of gravity, is faith based then as well? Or the theory of calculus, mathematics, etc, all scientific findings are called theories. And yet evolution is the only one that Christians flip out about.

A theory, is speculation based on known scientific facts, evolution is that, astronomy is that, mathematics is that, all science is that.

Creationists attach themselves to Evolution only because it somehow goes against their book, when in fact, if looked at in the proper light, really does not.

Creation takes a HUGE amount of faith, you must believe that the bible is indeed the word of god, you must believe that god really cares enough to have created it in the first place, you must believe in all your heart that all of those words in the bible, rewritten and translated as they have been, have not been perverted or changed through that translation. All of that takes a lot more faith then the theory of evolution, the theory of evolution is scientific, it is speculation based on scientific facts.

I do not believe that fantasy and religion should be taught in a publicly funded classroom, PERIOD. A classroom is a place for learning facts and science, not mythology and religion. If you want your children to learn such things, then send them to PRIVATE school for that faith based education you seem to want them to have so badly, or better yet, TEACH IT TO THEM YOURSELVES!!!
20 posted on 09/08/2002 10:03:59 AM PDT by Aric2000
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To: Aric2000
This whole thing kind of sticks in your craw, doesn't it?

I do not believe that fantasy and religion should be taught in a publicly funded classroom, PERIOD.

Guess we need to get rid of classical literature as well? After all, it's all fantasy, right? No need to read The Illiad or The Odyssey. We can get rid of Wilson Rawls Where The Red Fern Grows, and all that Dr. Seuss garbage as well.

21 posted on 09/08/2002 10:11:12 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: Aric2000
OK, so the theory of gravity, is faith based then as well? Or the theory of calculus, mathematics, etc, all scientific findings are called theories.

As you may have heard, there is no 'theory of gravity'. There is however, a 'law of gravity'. The existence of gravity is not in doubt. IMO the existence of evolution is not in doubt. The mechanism of evolution by natural selection is a theory, and requires a faith in materialism, since it assumes that direction is not a possibility. This has not been proven, and probably can never be proven. It requires a proof that God does not exist.

23 posted on 09/08/2002 10:27:58 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Aric2000
I do not believe that fantasy and religion should be taught in a publicly funded classroom, PERIOD.

In a way, I agree with you. It is my belief that after a period of transition, participation in public education in any way should be punished by execution. Only private and religious education should be permitted. Public schools are a pernicious evil, in part because it permits folks like you to attempt to impose their prejudices by force upon the population. I do believe that this private and religious education should be financed by the government.

24 posted on 09/08/2002 10:31:58 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Aric2000
Creation takes a HUGE amount of faith, you must believe that the bible is indeed the word of god, you must believe that god really cares enough to have created it in the first place, you must believe in all your heart that all of those words in the bible, rewritten and translated as they have been, have not been perverted or changed through that translation.

Christians believe that Jesus of Nazareth died and resurrected Himself, proving Himself to be God, the Creator of the Universe. Believing the rest isn't too hard.

BTW, Catholic scholars have for over a millennia stressed that creation as told in Genesis did not happen in six literal days. The Hebrew used for days in Genesis means era.

All of that takes a lot more faith then the theory of evolution, the theory of evolution is scientific,

Quasiscientific. No one can test evolution like one can test gravity, or properties of chemicals, or magnetism or the speed of sound. Evolution consists of finding a couple of bones and making huge extrapolations in order to fill in the blanks, which or more like Grand Canyon-sized chasms.

it is speculation based on scientific facts.

What facts?
40 posted on 09/08/2002 11:26:52 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Aric2000
OK, so the theory of gravity, is faith based then as well? Or the theory of calculus, mathematics, etc, all scientific findings are called theories.

No, because calculus, mathematics, gravity, chemical properties, magnetism, electricity, etc. etc. can all be tested over and over again with definite results. Evolution is closer to astrology, where a scientist finds a bone in the ground and makes gigantic inferences and extrapolations based on that infinitesmal finding.
41 posted on 09/08/2002 11:28:37 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Aric2000

OK, so the theory of gravity, is faith based then as well?

Hmmm... I always thought it was the law of gravity. And every morning, when I get out of bed and my feet naturally go to the floor, I believe it, no matter how badly I wish I could fly.


47 posted on 09/08/2002 11:38:57 AM PDT by AnnaZ
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