Our Republic and Our Free Republic

9-6-02 | Joe Phillips

[BADJOE]

History teaches some very good lessons. They are hard to learn but our forefathers did a great job.

From the beginning of time man has overthrown one form of centralized government only to re-establish another one in its place. Our forefathers understood this far better than anyone ever had. They said governments are the eternal enemy of free men. They said that in order for man to remain free it would take a bloody revolution every other generation, unless you bound down (bastard) government with the chains of the constitution.

On another site this week a poster asked if anyone else hated government as much as he did. I replied to him

"Hell !! I thought you were not a good American if you didn't love our country and hate our government.

At least that is how I have always felt about it"

I think our forefathers had the same attitude that I have now. And I think it is inherent in the average Americans attitude to distrust and have disdain for any government, including ours. One of the hardest conclusions I had to arrive at as a young man, after having been a product of the public school system, was that our government was not on our side. As James Forrestahl, former secretary of the Navy, who suffered a mysterious death, once said about our State Department's foreign policy, " Stupidity is never a mark of consistancy. If they were merely stupid, they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor".

Newt Gringrich put it in a humourous manner when talking about the attitude of Europeans. He related the following story. If you go to Europe and drive on the Autobahn, you feel pretty good cruising down the highway at 100 mph when some some German passes you doing 140 mph. Now he said if the Bundestag passed the 55mph speed limit law, every German would dutifully obey that law, untill the next election. They would vote the 55 mph crowd out of office and the no speed limit crowd in. In America Newt said "A speed limit sign is a benchmark of opportunity.

It is obvious that Yankees and Euros have entirely different attitudes about government's edicts. There are darn few Americans who do not break the speed limit laws everyday.

Now we come to the Free Republic. Once a free wheeling, joyful site for news and discussion of politics, economics, philosophy, ethics and morals. I could not understand the transformation that has taken place in the last six months. Camaraderie, the sense of family, and cooperation seems to have disappeared. Are the Freepers exhibiting the same disdain for the new FR as Americans have for our government?

[Rebelbase]

LOL! Thanks.

[AppyPappy]

He hates Republicans?

[Mudboy Slim]

LOL...so yer an ornery imbiber, eh?!

I'm a happy drunk...unless I'm feelin' mean and nasty!!

FReegards...MUD

[tomkat]

or this Band ...

[VA Advogado]

"You know that is libel."

What was? My speculation, or RBA's funny pictures? The truth is a defense, isn't it?


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/745759/posts?page=271#271

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Oh, the poor rhino and such a nasty weggie!!Thongs will do that to ya!

See? Even the Devil's Panties themselves appeared on this thread. It's becoming all inclusive.

[FreedominJesusChrist]

LOL! I have seen that website and I would say that it hasn't been updated for around two or more years.

That same website has a lot of garbage about George W. and drug use too., not to mention Dan Quayle.

[VA Advogado]

Congrats to the FR Moderator's who work night and day to help make this the best web site Thanks to all of you who help make this a great web site.

Ditto!

[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

Lazamatz and others here are posting on a site called "Liberty Post". I don't have a problem with others having sites that they feel reflect their opinions more accurately, good for them, fine.

But why they need to come to someone elses site and start fires is beyond me.

Thanks friend for standing up to words of hate regarding THIS COUNTRY, its government and all. After all, we aren't just a piece of LAND, but a Nation of Laws. Some interpret them differently than others. The thing is, they don't realize how lucky they are to even BE in a country where they are free to excercise one of THIS "GOVERNMENTS" AMMENDMENTS!!

Barking up the wrong tree when you come here and state you HATE our Government. Perhaps they can tell me a Government that is run better? A place better than this to live?

I'm waiting.... :o)

[Neets]

She can't help it yanow.

[AAABEST]

Remember, You'd rather "Sail em" than smoke em. Or how about "Lava".

Wasn't Crest "Crust" or something. Boy you're bringing stuff back here.

[Freemeorkillme]

Argh! I was musing to self. Can you please repost it for a bit until I get a reply from BADJOE re: my last post? I don't want anything to appear out of context.

Another thought. Might it lighten the load of moderators for FReepers to be able to pull/edit their own threads/posts? Say in the instance of something as simple as removing one's own thread to help avoid "It's already posted here..." syndrome. Or for a quick retraction of a hastily posted comment? Or would that be a bad idea, making things appear disjointed and out of context?

Thanks

[BluesDuke]

Don't get me wrong - I loved The Last Waltz, film and album alike (especially when Muddy Waters took his turn with the Band, cranking out "Mannish Boy" like the six of them were possessed). But for the quality of the music, I still think Rock of Ages not just the Band's better live albums but one of the plain best albums in rock and roll...

[Neets]

Tritto

[warchild9]

Your #66 is inconsistent. Whenever I'm ganged up on during one of my anti-hunting incursions, you join the gangup almost every time. (You also do so with humor and rationality, not abusive insecruity, to give you credit.)

[VA Advogado]

"That same website has a lot of garbage about George W."

So does this one: http://www.judicialwatch.org/

[Howlin]

You know that is libel.

You sure know what it is. You libeled David Keene right on this very forum. Try not to be so sanctimonious.

[KateUTWS]

Say it ain't so Joe?
It ain't SO!

[Freedom2specul8]

"Man, that was well said." 157 posted on 9/6/02 11:28 AM Central by MassExodus

I agree!