Should we trust George W. Bush?

World Net Daily ^ | 8/29/02 | Harry Browne

[VaBthang4]

He'll wrap himself in the Constitution...that'll protect him from the Nuclear blast.

[Lumberjack]

And what's gonna happen when THEY have a different interpretation than you do?

I guess that means that they would be thinking for themselves. Why does that frighten you so?

All I can do is present my case to them once they get to the age of reasoning. Its up to them at that point. As long as they make their own decisions and don't fall into a silly group mentality, I'll be happy. Failing that, oh well, not much I could do about it anyway, is there (assuming the time you are talking about is when they are legal adults)?

[Howlin]

Most conservatives believed the polls (big mistake), and were convinced that Bush was the only candidate who could defeat Gore.

Name. Let's have it. Who could have beaten Gore. Not who you HOPED might could, but who positively WOULD have.

Rather than voting "for" someone, they were voting "against" someone, and in so doing they selected the guy with the highest poll numbers.

That's something you tell yourself to justify your own beliefs.

And it's damn insulting to the other posters on FR; we KNEW who we were voting for and did so gladly.

We trust George W. Bush and it's obviously killing you.

[MJY1288]

Don't you mean Midol?

[Texasforever]

What is your definition of a loser then?

[KentuckyWoman]

If I want a real opinion on the Constitutionality of recent or proposed legislation, I'll ask someone like William Rehnquist or Clarence Thomas or Kenneth Starr, not some fruitloop ranting on the internet.

Hmmm..let's see here... this would be some of the same black-robed legislators that DISCOVERED a right to murder unborn children, a right to pornography, the 'seperation of church and state' and that blatantly ignores the rights and responsibilites of the individual states in favor of federal control. Yep! There are some REAL constitional scholars for you. NOT!

[VaBthang4]

LOL

[Howlin]

Thinking for themselves, i.e., having their OWN interpretation of the Constitution, doesn't scare ME at all.

Evidently it's giving YOU quite a bit of trouble though, because you keep saying nobody understands it but you.

[Texasforever]

Yep! There are some REAL constitional scholars for you. NOT!

AHHHHH a wannbe Chief Justice. LMAO

[Mo1]

oh Baby !!!

[Mo1]

Cold Meds work too

[KentuckyWoman]

Oh sure, France aided us during the revolutionary war, due to no self-interests of their own!

The point that you seem to obviously have missed is that France stuck it's neck in the noose with ours with only a hope of future trade as any possible reward. They weren't hoping for hand-outs down the road and their goose would have been cooked right along with ours had we lost. Capish?

[lonestar]

2) Bush duped conservatives into believing he was a real conservative (school vouchers and privatization of social security).

Excuse me! Bush didn't "dupe" anybody. He was more conservative as governor than he has been as president but I truly believe he might have been more conservative as pres. had he won the popular vote.

Another thing, can you remember when a president has had a worse first year dealing with things that were not of his making?

3) Most conservatives believed the polls (big mistake), and were convinced that Bush was the only candidate who could defeat Gore. Rather than voting "for" someone, they were voting "against" someone, and in so doing they selected the guy with the highest poll numbers.

And who do you think conservatives should have voted for? I was for Bush from the "get-go" because I think he was a good governor.

I am proud to say I have been very active in three Bush campaigns!

[justshe]

Just happen to have this right here in case you need it:

(I KNOW Kentucky woman was saying this did NOT exist)

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The War Powers Resolution states that the President's powers as Commander-in-Chief to introduce U.S. forces into hostilities or imminent hostilities are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war; (2) specific statutory authorization; or (3) a national emergency created by an attack on the United States or its forces.

It requires the President in every possible instance to consult with Congress before introducing American armed forces into hostilities or imminent hostilities unless there has been a declaration of war or other specific congressional authorization.


One Hundred Seventh Congress
of the

United States of America

AT THE FIRST SESSION
Begun and held at the City of Washington on Wednesday,

the third day of January, two thousand and one

Joint Resolution

To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.

Whereas, on September 11, 2001, acts of treacherous violence were committed against the United States and its citizens; and

Whereas, such acts render it both necessary and appropriate that the United States exercise its rights to self-defense and to protect United States citizens both at home and abroad; and

Whereas, in light of the threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by these grave acts of violence; and

Whereas, such acts continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States; and

Whereas, the President has authority under the Constitution to take action to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This joint resolution may be cited as the `Authorization for Use of Military Force'.

SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) IN GENERAL- That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

(b) War Powers Resolution Requirements-

(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.

(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS- Nothing in this resolution supercedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.

Speaker of the House of Representatives.

Vice President of the United States and

President of the Senate.
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Gone for just an hour and y'all are still playing?

[Mo1]

Oh that's right .. I forgot

[Miss Marple]

Thanks for he information. I am retiring for the night. See you tomorrow!

[Texasforever]

Given her state of mind maybe counting black helicopters may do the trick

[KentuckyWoman]

If it was that simple, we wouldn't be having these arguments

Of course, the Federalist Papers were written for, what was at that time, the common man who, for the most part, were farmers. Just goes to show that people during that era who were mostly homeschooled in history, spelling, penmanship, etc., were better educated than people are now. We won't even get into the subversions of the Constitution that took place during the Jackson and Lincoln administrations. ;-)

[Torie]

Bush is going to Congress for another authorization, and will present the evidence which Cheney alluded to, and Congress will give him another green light, so this is moot. Even if some in Congress have doubts, denying the green light would be so disasterous for US policy, that it simply will not happen. Bush has the whip hand here, and he will be responsible for what happens. The buck stops in the oval office.

[Mo1]

Just goes to show that people during that era who were mostly homeschooled in history, spelling, penmanship, etc., were better educated than people are now.

So let me guess .. you didn't like Ozzy Osborne's TV show huh??