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Should we trust George W. Bush?
World Net Daily ^ | 8/29/02 | Harry Browne

Posted on 08/29/2002 1:00:30 PM PDT by feelin_poorly

Shortly after 9-11, TV talk-show host Sean Hannity said, "Thank God, we have an honest man in the White House!"

And when you think about it, a great deal of what you might believe about the so-called War on Terrorism is based on statements from George W. Bush. You have only his word, or that of someone in his administration:

Since America is endangered by the "you're either with me or against me" tactics of the Bush administration, it becomes vital to know whether we can trust the man in charge of our government.

The record

So does George Bush's record inspire confidence in his honesty?

Unfortunately, this is the same man who has referred to trillions of dollars in budget surpluses – even though the federal government hasn't had a budget surplus since 1956. (The appearance of any "surpluses" was created by taking excess receipts from Social Security and applying them to the general budget, even as the politicians swore they were protecting Social Security.)

Mr. Bush even has the chutzpah to refer with a straight face (well not exactly a straight face, he loves to smirk) to corporate executives "cooking the books." He neglects to mention that many of the corporate bookkeeping methods the politicians are so incensed about today were motivated by rules imposed by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.

And George Bush is the same man who in 2000 said he believed in "limited government." Most people assumed he meant a government limited by the Constitution. In fact, he took an oath in which he swore to uphold the Constitution.

But he's violated virtually every one of the first 10 Amendments – especially the Ninth and 10th Amendments, which are meant to impose precise limits on his power.

So his belief in "limited government" apparently means government limited to what he wants to do.

George Bush is the same man who in one breath tries to ingratiate himself with you by saying, "It's your money, not the politicians' money" – but in the next breath, he says he's entitled to one third of "your money."

George Bush is the same man who said he has learned more about political philosophy from Jesus of Nazareth than from anyone else. But he's proven by his actions that he doesn't really believe such things as "Blessed are the peacemakers." And "the meek" who Jesus said would inherit the earth are in Mr. Bush's eyes really just "collateral damage" in his plans to tell the world how it must live.

Is honesty important?

In these and in so many other ways, George Bush has proven that he's not an honest man – and that we shouldn't trust him with the safety of America.

In fact, Thomas Jefferson understood that we shouldn't put our trust in any politician. He said we should bind them down from mischief "by the chains of the Constitution." And a truly honest man wouldn't even ask you to trust him.

Contrary to what you might have thought, this isn't an article about George Bush. It's an article about you. Are you going to demean yourself by putting your faith in a man who has done so much to demonstrate the folly of such faith?

Are you going to let politicians stampede you into throwing away the Bill of Rights, based on "evidence" you never see, reassured by politicians who have proven that the truth is secondary to their own ambitions?

Don't you have enough respect for your own mind to make your own decisions, refuse to accept conclusions without evidence, and be something better than a cheerleader for a politician or a political party?


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To: DeadManRunning
Are you guys familiar with the term?

Yes, but with pets like you hanging around we are bound to learn more. Thanks for helping out. Bwahahahahaha !!!!

161 posted on 08/29/2002 4:12:19 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Howlin
LOL!
The eyes have it!
162 posted on 08/29/2002 4:13:19 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
"The essential principles of our Government... form the bright constellation which has gone before us and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation. The wisdom of our sages and blood of our heroes have been devoted to their attainment. They should be the creed of our political faith, the text of civic instruction, the touchstone by which to try the services of those we trust; and should we wander from them in moments of error or of alarm, let us hasten to retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty and safety."
--1st Inaugural Address, 1801.

"It behooves [a chief executive] to think and to act for [himself] and for [his] people. The great principles of right and wrong are legible to every reader; to pursue them requires not the aid of many counselors. The whole art of government consists in the art of being honest. [He need] only aim to do [his] duty, and mankind will give [him] credit where [he fails]."
--Thomas Jefferson: Rights of British America, 1774. (*) ME 1:209, Papers 1:134

163 posted on 08/29/2002 4:13:41 PM PDT by oldvike
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To: DeadManRunning
I thought he may be interested. Freepers call it a ping. Are you guys familiar with the term?

I'll play along and acknowledge you think we're this dense.

164 posted on 08/29/2002 4:20:37 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Freemeorkillme
Your post 135!!! BRAVO!!! Could NOT agree MORE!!

We are positive that history will show what an outstanding job this President did. Under extroidinary circumstances!
165 posted on 08/29/2002 4:21:17 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Howlin
I try not to think like you do, that's for sure.

That would require infinitely more intelligence than you could ever hope to muster. Quickly now, go back to sleep before you begin to question your own beliefs.

166 posted on 08/29/2002 4:30:26 PM PDT by Alan Chapman
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To: oldvike; All
I respect our founding fathers but the reality is that our Nation and the very real external threats we face as well as security requirements we must have couldnt have been concieved of by them.

Commonsense urges me to believe that first and foremost they would acknowledge these external threats and deal with them with as much savvy as our current administration.

Would they do it differently...I cannot say, but I am certain they would act.

Our Nation is much much different then anything they could've possibly imagined at the time.

1790 Census
Total US population: 3,929,214
Whites: 80.7%
Blacks: 19.3% (90% in South)
Native Americans not counted, likely over 80 tribes w/
150,000 persons.
Economically Ranking behind all the Nations of Europe
Militarily Ranking behind all the Nations of Europe

2000 US population:281,000,000
69.1 percent white
12.1 percent black
12.5 percent Hispanic
3.7 percent Asian and Pacific Islander
0.7 percent American Indian
0.2 percent "Some other race."
Another 1.6 percent of the population (about 4.6 million
people) identified with two or more races.
An Economic and Military Hyperpower

By and large I think the majority of principles they laid down are transferable...but unfortunately some of them must be orientated to deal with "today".

Where matters of foreign relations and International threats are concerned...I think their principles must adapt.

I am aware of the slippery slope involved in this but given the choice of slippery slope to Nuclear detonation in one of our major cities...

I choose the former.

167 posted on 08/29/2002 4:30:48 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: Alan Chapman
That would require infinitely more intelligence than you could ever hope to muster.

So you say. At least I can recognize a loser when I see one.

168 posted on 08/29/2002 4:31:40 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; Howlin; Amelia; Southflanknorthpawsis
Do we have a body count yet on this thread?

Do you mind if I ask what this means?

169 posted on 08/29/2002 4:32:00 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Howlin
Hmmmm...seems kind of funny that Kentucky Woman suddenly disappeared after my post #91 that caught her in a fib about the PCA...LOL! And here I rushed home from work and immmediately hit my 'puter at home to see her response...I am SOOOOO disappointed...gotta go cook dinner, check in on y'all later after hubby goes to bed...
170 posted on 08/29/2002 4:32:38 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I'm sorry .. am I suppose to taken Harry Browne seriously??
171 posted on 08/29/2002 4:32:50 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I'm guessing here, but I'm thinking he thinks some more BRAINS have been banned.
172 posted on 08/29/2002 4:32:54 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: feelin_poorly
After reading through this thread, I've noticed that no one has really argued any of the points made in this article. All I see is flaming of supporters of the article, and insults toward the author. hmmmm....
173 posted on 08/29/2002 4:32:57 PM PDT by SirAngus
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To: Alan Chapman
Alan, was Osama bin Laden responsible for the WTC tragedy?
174 posted on 08/29/2002 4:33:26 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ravingnutter
Pesky facts!

I hope you didn't BREAK ANY LAWS and deprive anyone of the FREEDOMS on the way home!

175 posted on 08/29/2002 4:33:54 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: oldvike
I think the comparison was Harry Brown and the Founding Fathers.
176 posted on 08/29/2002 4:35:12 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Mo1
I'm sorry .. am I suppose to taken Harry Browne seriously??

Depends on who you ask! You asked me, so, ummmmmm...NO.

177 posted on 08/29/2002 4:35:18 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: SirAngus
How amazing! I see several reponses based on facts, with no responses.

What you actually want are posts you can agree with. Sorry, you won't get one from me.

178 posted on 08/29/2002 4:37:07 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: SirAngus
After reading through this thread, I've noticed that no one has really argued any of the points made in this article. All I see is flaming of supporters of the article, and insults toward the author. hmmmm....

I have noticed that there is a bizarre parallell universe at work ....for some of us,we look at GW and see a decent honorable person....for others no matter what he does he is another Clinton. If you go to DU you will find people who think that Clinton is not Clinton but Bush is ..no amount of arguing seems to change anyones mind ...So I say bash the stupid idiots who feed off anti matter.

179 posted on 08/29/2002 4:39:20 PM PDT by woofie
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To: SirAngus
OK .. fine .. Are you saying that this isn't true and that Bush is making it all up??

that Iraq, which George Bush is dying to invade, still has "weapons of mass destruction" that threaten Americans directly;
that Osama bin Laden masterminded the 9-11 attacks (the infamous videotape demonstrated his joy at the success of the attacks, not his participation);

If dear old Harry thinks these things aren't true and won't happen .. then all I have to say to dear old Harry is .. I sure hope he doesn't live in a big city

180 posted on 08/29/2002 4:39:42 PM PDT by Mo1
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