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To: Dimensio
”Well anyone who asserts that germs are invisible is a nut. Germs are visible, you just need a powerful magnifying lens to detect them.”<

That is a “red herring” as you well know. I could have been more precise by stating that germs are invisible to the naked eye. During the early days of medicine bloodletting was common and there was an elaborate practice and theory behind it. It makes for interesting reading. In terms of the practice, many people recovered after bloodletting, “proving” the validity of the theory behind it. As an interesting sidelight, bloodletting using leeches is practiced again today based on modern scientific theories. At this time I can’t remember exactly what ailments leeching is designed to cure. The theory and practice of bloodletting was so prevalent as the answer to virtually everything that early physicians were known as “leeches.”

”Of course, you're just throwing that out as a red herring, because comparing the scientific method that brought about germ theory to "scientific creationism" is apples and oranges.”

Before making assertions, it would be well to do research on the genesis of the knowledge that germs cause infections. It is not a theory, but an established fact. It was established by the ability of scientists to create and reproduce infections using the germs that caused them.

The problem with evolutionary theory is that is does not appear to be reproducible – at least until now. Therefore, alternative hypothesis regarding the development and creation of living things should be entertained. The refusal to entertain alternative theories, but to dismiss them with ridicule, is the mark more of a true believe than of an objective observer.

25 posted on 08/28/2002 10:22:45 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: moneyrunner
Before making assertions, it would be well to do research on the genesis of the knowledge that germs cause infections. It is not a theory, but an established fact.

Everything in science is theory. Many creationists like to ignore that because it makes "evolution is only a theory" sound like a more meaningful statement.
27 posted on 08/28/2002 10:24:35 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: moneyrunner
The problem with evolutionary theory is that is does not appear to be reproducible – at least until now. Therefore, alternative hypothesis regarding the development and creation of living things should be entertained.

The murders of Anne Nicole Smith and Ron Goldman are not reproducible. Therefore, by your reasoning, the bafflegab spun by Cochran & Co. is just as credible as the belief that O. J. Simpson is a murderer. Heck, by your reasoning the theory that Smith and Goldman were disintegrated by space aliens is just as credible a notion.

60 posted on 08/28/2002 10:43:38 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: moneyrunner
At this time I can’t remember exactly what ailments leeching is designed to cure.

When bloodletting was a popular treatment, it was (I've read) used only for conditions which were attributed -- rightly or wrongly -- to too much blood, e.g., fever.

The modern use of leeches I've heard of (unfortunately with pictures) is to clean up wounds. It was a few years ago that I saw the article in the Boston Globe -- I forget whether it's just in the case of surgical wounds to promote healing or other wounds. (I'm afraid the pictures made the deepest impression -- anyone who puts a leech on me without being sure I've been sedated and tied up will have his own wounds to worry about!)

65 posted on 08/28/2002 10:46:43 AM PDT by maryz
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