[wardaddy]

I can relate to all this. I have gone round and round with my 13 and 14 year old daughters over belly rings as of late. My ex-wife still thinks she's a 42 year old kid and my husband in law who's sensible is afraid to wade into the mud on my behalf. The 14 year old who is a sweet girl went ahead and took the plunge with her mother's help(she got one also at age 42) before I even knew about it. I had told them 16 was soon enough and I even thought that was liberal from my perspective. My 13 year old has so far adhered to my wishes. My wife who has a belly ring herself but has removed it since she's 6 months preggers is on my side in this as well. We keep trying to insist that there is plenty of time to grow up.

It's tough when you're not the "primary residential parent". By law my ex violated our decree but I'm not going to spend a small fortune to take her up on contempt.

Tell your boys to be very careful who they marry and don't let primal attraction cloud their judgement.

[vin-one]

I won the belly ring argument, with you can't swim for 6months after getting the ring,

two teenage daughters 15 and 17. the youngest has a heart murmur and a valve abnormality, that she has to have anti-biotics for any punctures, so she is safe for now.

goodluck.

[yendu bwam]

Tell your boys to be very careful who they marry and don't let primal attraction cloud their judgement.

Thanks for the advice. As it turns out, that's exactly what I tell them!