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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Apparently he hasn’t read the Bible. Mary and Joseph were ordered by Roman authority to return to their home jurisdiction for census purposes. They were Roman citizens and they were “invited”.

Small correction: They weren't Roman citizens (as the Apostle Paul was), they were subjects. They did not have full rights as citizens. For example Jesus was put to death by crucifixion because he did not have citizenship, while Paul was allowed to be beheaded because he was a citizen. Your point remains, however. Even as mere subjects, they still were not crossing illegally from one country to another.

66 posted on 12/26/2025 10:19:02 AM PST by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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To: fidelis

Thanks for the correction.


81 posted on 12/26/2025 10:50:47 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perfection is impossible. But if you pursue perfection you may achieve excellence - - Vince Lombardi)
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To: fidelis
while Paul was allowed to be beheaded because he was a citizen.

There is no scriptural or historical evidence of Paul's death. We don't know when or how he died.

The book of Acts ends with Paul under house arrest in Rome, awaiting his trial, but there is no description or resolution of his trial in the New Testament. We know Paul returned to Rome in 60 AD and he was under house arrest for two years until 62 AD, but the story ends there.

Theories abound regarding Paul's death, but there is no hard evidence.

1. He was found guilty at his trial and executed.
2. He was acquitted at his trial and continued his ministry in Spain.
3. He died in Rome's great fire in 64 AD.
4. He was executed by Nero (along with Peter) during Nero's campaign against Christians in 64-67 AD.

101 posted on 12/26/2025 6:40:38 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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