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Why So Many Women Cheat on Their Husbands
New York Magazine ^

Posted on 09/21/2017 9:16:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway

One of the more interesting facts in Esther Perel’s new book, State of Affairs: Rethinking Infidelity, comes near the beginning. Since 1990, notes the psychoanalyst and writer, the rate of married women who report they’ve been unfaithful has increased by 40 percent, while the rate among men has remained the same. More women than ever are cheating, she tells us, or are willing to admit that they are cheating — and while Perel spends much of her book examining the psychological meaning, motivation, and impact of these affairs, she offers little insight into the significance of the rise itself. So what exactly is happening inside marriages to shift the numbers? What has changed about monogamy or family life in the past 27 years to account for the closing gap? And why have so many women begun to feel entitled to the kind of behavior long accepted (albeit disapprovingly) as a male prerogative?

These questions first occurred to me a few years ago when I began to wonder how many of my friends were actually faithful to their husbands. From a distance, they seemed happy enough, or at least content. Like me, they were doing the family thing. They had cute kids, mortgages, busy social lives, matching sets of dishes. On the surface, their husbands were reasonable, the marriages modern and equitable. If these women friends were angry unfulfilled or resentful, they didn’t show it.

Then one day, one of them confided in me she’d been having two overlapping affairs over the course of five years. Almost before I’d finished processing this, another friend told me she was 100 percent faithful to her husband, except when she was out of town for work each month. Not long after, another told me that while she’d never had sex with another man, she’d had so many emotional affairs and inappropriate email correspondences over the years that she’d had to buy a separate hard drive to store them all.

These women were turning to infidelity not as a way to explode a marriage, but as a way to stay in it. What surprised me most about these conversations was not that my friends were cheating, but that many of them were so nonchalant in the way they described their extramarital adventures. There was deception but little secrecy or shame. Often, they loved their husbands, but felt in some fundamental way that their needs (sexual, emotional, psychological) were not being met inside the marriage. Some even wondered if their husbands knew about their infidelity, choosing to look away. “The fact is,” one of these friends told me, “I’m nicer to my husband when I have something special going on that’s just for me.” She found that she was kinder, more patient, less resentful, “less of a bitch.” It occurred to me as I listened that these women were describing infidelity not as a transgression but a creative or even subversive act, a protest against an institution they’d come to experience as suffocating or oppressive. In an earlier generation, this might have taken the form of separation or divorce, but now, it seemed, more and more women were unwilling to abandon the marriages and families they’d built over years or decades. They were also unwilling to bear the stigma of a publicly open marriage or to go through the effort of negotiating such a complex arrangement. These women were turning to infidelity not as a way to explode a marriage, but as a way to stay in it. Whereas conventional narratives of female infidelity so often posit the unfaithful woman as a passive party, the women I talked to seemed in control of their own transgressions. There seemed to be something new about this approach.

In The Secret Life of the Cheating Wife: Power, Pragmatism, and Pleasure in Women’s Infidelity, another book on infidelity to be published this November, the sociologist Alicia Walker elaborates on the concept of female infidelity as a subversion of traditional gender roles. To do so, she interviews 40 women who sought or participated in extramarital relationships through the Ashley Madison dating site. Like The State of Affairs, Walker’s text offers valuable insight simply by way of approaching its subject from a position of curiosity as opposed to prevention or recovery, and she investigates which factors led the women in her study to go outside their marriages. Surely, one might think, a woman who would do such a thing must be acting out of a desire to escape a miserable marriage. And yet it turns out, this isn’t always the case: Many of the women Walker interviewed were in marriages that were functional. Like the women I knew who cheated, many of the interviewees said they liked their husbands well enough. They had property together. They had friendships together. They had children that they were working together to raise. But at the same time, they found married life incredibly dull and constraining and resented the fact that as women, they felt they consistently did a disproportionate amount of the invisible labor that went into maintaining their lifestyle. One woman in Walker’s book told her, “The inequality of it all is such an annoying factor that I am usually in a bad mood when my spouse is in my presence,” and another said that while her husband was a competent adult in the world, at home he felt like “another child to clean up after.”

Many of the friends I spoke to expressed similar feelings. “I shop and cook, my husband does dishes and empties the trash,” one told me. “We each do our own laundry. But I’ve always been in charge of the ‘calendar,’ and what I didn’t realize until recently is that in some way I’m in charge of managing many of our relationships. My husband is a homebody and I initiate/plan almost all of our social endeavors. My mom got this phrase from her therapist: ‘keeping the pulse of the household’ — this idea that someone has to be managing the emotional heart of your tiny community. I think women do that a lot.” And as Perel repeats frequently in this book, and in her previous one, little does as much to muffle erotic desire as this kind of caretaking and enmeshment.

There is a correlation between equal division of labor and better sex. “I think there’s an incredible amount of deep resentment for women in America about divisions of labor,” said sociologist Lisa Wade when I asked her to comment on this contradiction. “And what social scientists are finding now is that there is a correlation between equal division of labor and better sex.” No matter how much attention is paid to these issues, she told me, “these kind of cultural beliefs hang on a long time after they’re relevant. They hang on in ways that are often invisible. A lot of women have tried to address these problems and have faced a lot of stubbornness from husbands. They feel there’s no way to win this battle. So maybe now what women are deciding is that infidelity is a third way.”

Of course, it’s a “third way” that is not feasible for everyone, even if more women are taking it up, usually women who feel financially secure and independent enough to risk potential fallout. These women seem to be finding that no amount of sensitivity or goodwill on the part of their husbands can save them from the fact that in every arena, from work to marriage to parenthood, they’re always doing more for less. As Wade put it, “It’s such a precarious balance keeping everyone happy, that for many women, to start a long conversation about her own sexual satisfaction seems like a bad idea. We now tell women that they can have it all, that they can work and have a family and deserve to be sexually satisfied. And then when having it all is miserable and overwhelming or they realize marriage isn’t all it’s cracked it up to be, maybe having affairs is the new plan B.”

I tested this idea out on a few of the friends who had confided in me about their affairs, and most of them agreed. Twenty or thirty years ago they might have opted for divorce, because surely there was another man out there who could do better in this role, who could satisfy them completely. But a lot of these women are children of divorce. They lived through the difficulties divorce can create. “Even now,” all these years later, one told me, “Do you know what my most vivid memory of Christmas is? Driving through a blizzard up I-95 in the back of one of their cars, and then they’d pull over on the side of the highway and hand off me and my brother without speaking. That was our Christmas. Why did these people marry in the first place?”

Maybe that’s the essential question, the question preceding those Perel explores in her book. Why do women still marry when, if statistics are to be believed, marriage doesn’t make them very happy?

I confided in a friend once that, after 15 years of marriage, the institution and the relationship itself continued to mystify me. At the time I married, marriage had felt like a panacea; it was a bond that would provide security, love, friendship, stability, and romance — the chance to have children and nice dishes, to be introduced as someone’s wife. It promised to expand my circle of family and improve my credit score, to tether me to something wholesome and give my life meaning.

Could any single relationship not fall short of such expectations? Maybe these women were on to something — valuing their marriages for the things it could offer and outsourcing the rest, accepting the distance between the idealization and the actual thing, seeing marriage clearly for what it is and not what we’re all told and promised it will be.

My friend told me she felt this way of thinking was the only answer, and the way she’d come to reconcile her feelings about the relationship. She said that she used to compare her marriage to her parents’, who always seemed totally in love. “Until the end of my mom’s life they were spooning together every night in a double bed … not even a queen. But,” she added, “they were awful and narcissistic, with very little to give to their children.” My friend felt she and her husband were much better parents, more involved and attuned to their kids. “But often,” she went on, “it can feel like my husband and I are running a family corporation together and that our emotional intimacy consists of gossiping about our friends and watching Game of Thrones. Sometimes I wonder if when the kids leave I should either (a) have a passionate affair or (b) find another husband. I may do neither, but it seems like (a) is more likely than (b). I don’t have any illusions that marrying someone else will make me happy, not anymore.”


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KEYWORDS: adultery; fewerlies; genderwars; marriage; morehonesttoday; sameasalways; spouses
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To: rbg81
The most important quality in a partner is: Sanity

According to the CDC:
Women twice as likely as men to take antidepressants
25% of women take mental health drugs.

101 posted on 09/22/2017 7:51:11 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: rb22982
I work 50-60 hrs/week, do some housework and manage all of our finances (including active investments like rental properties which are a lot of work to self manage).

I hope you have a good plan worked out with her in case you are suddenly incapacitated or worse. You don't want to leave her without a clue how to manage, or much of your hard work may go down the tube.

102 posted on 09/22/2017 7:57:10 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

I have a very good LT disability policy through work, I have several million in life insurance (plus a good chunk of dough saved) and I’ve gone over the basics of how to (come close to) maintain her lifestyle in the event of my death with her (~$100k/year, with no mortgage, forever, indexed to inflation), her parents and our financial adviser, who is a very close friend of mine since middle school. No plan is ever fool-proof but I’ve done what I can.


103 posted on 09/22/2017 8:01:37 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: PapaBear3625
Because she will not experience censure and shunning from her friends, who will blame the husband for being inadequate to her needs, and thus justify her cheating.

Just in normal romance, things change on a daily basis. One day it takes 20 minutes to get her warmed up. The next 2 hours. The day after, she's jumping on you, getting you going.
Then of course there is the getting going and she hits the brakes.

It's like trying to open a safe and changing the combination everyday.

Throw PMS in there and it's a crap shoot for the man to get anything right.


104 posted on 09/22/2017 8:08:32 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Southack

Plus one


105 posted on 09/22/2017 8:08:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: rb22982
No, under no fault divorce, the woman nearly always wins.

It often depends on the state in which the parties reside, the decade in which they divorce, the particular lawyers they hire and/or the judge who hears their case. Divorce has no universal governing body. If there were standardized national divorce laws, they would be just as horrible as Obamacare or CommonCore. So it's often the luck of the draw. The divorce industry (lawyers, judges, therapists, accountants, etc) also have been crafting all kinds of ways to get around "no-fault" since its inception in the late 70s, and the results are not uniform by any means.

In SC that you mentioned as an example, it is still a "Bible belt" state where women may still invoke the hoop skirts-and-parasols stereotypes of helpless lil' wimmen. But in major cities of the northeast or west coast, there are lawyers who specialize in helping the stay-at-home spouses of professional men (lawyers, doctors, etc) who get absolutely destroyed by their husbands in divorce—because they can. It's a patchwork all over the nation.

When our "free" society first started, there was a fairly uniform moral code rooted in Judeo-Christian values. "Fault" divorce actually penalized wrongdoings like adultery, abandonment or bigamy. "No-fault" was supposed to be an enlightened way for couples who agreed to divorce could speed up the process; but it soon morphed into a full-blown marxist assault on traditional morality, common sense and/or fair play. Now that four generations have had all that exploded in their faces, legal outcomes are anything some random judge thinks they should be whether he or she is having a good day or a bad one. It's chaos.

106 posted on 09/22/2017 8:12:59 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: nickcarraway
From the article:

Since 1990, notes the psychoanalyst and writer, the rate of married women who report they’ve been unfaithful has increased by 40 percent, while the rate among men has remained the same.

From "How to Lie With Statistics" I understand this writer is trying to make a small number look large. An increase of 40% can be 2 out of a hundred changing to 3 out of a hundred. So, if 4 of a hundred cheated in a 1990 survey and now 27 years later 5.6 cheat, that is a 40% increase.

107 posted on 09/22/2017 8:16:17 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: nickcarraway
Most are addicted to the *ock carousal. They were heavy into the meat market in their prime.

On the downside of their sexual market value, their hypergamy internal switch kicked in and they latched on to a Beta male for a decent cash flow.

His boring life of working hard to support her and her family are not enough to stop love for the *ock carousal.

108 posted on 09/22/2017 8:16:45 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: Albion Wilde

You are right to some degree (it varies by by state/local/judge), but according to NATIONAL statistics, women are 11x more likely to get child custody than the man is and 32x more likely to get alimony. No fault divorce simply screws men over, period. There are exceptions, of course, in a nation this large there always will be.


109 posted on 09/22/2017 8:21:57 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982
"Regardless of changing times, it is still the case that more men cheat (or get caught at it) than women; therefore more women file for divorce. "

Not according to this article, this article.


Neither of your articles refutes my point or puts forward any comparative statistics. The "research" cited was the opinion of marriage counselors, and it was a very small sample of 100, not an actual reputable study of thousands of divorcing couples. All that either of those articles says is that people cite several reasons for getting divorced, women one set and men another. It does not give any numbers for any of those reasons.

110 posted on 09/22/2017 8:25:11 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

1) the point is the primary reason women file for divorce isn’t cheating and 2) men aren’t cheating more than they were 50 years ago when divorce filings were much closer to 50/50


111 posted on 09/22/2017 8:26:22 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: mountn man
The numbers on infidelity are close enough to even.
57% of men who admit to committing infidelity in any relationship they’ve had.
54% of women who admit to committing infidelity in any relationship they’ve had

Those statements are misleading and badly worded.
• Are they identifying themselves as the cheater and therefore that is why they are getting divorced against their will, or because they like the new person better?
• Are they identifying cheating as the main reason for the divorce, without indicating whether it was their own cheating or their partner's cheating that they blame?
• Was the cheating something one did first or for a prolonged time, abandoning sex with the spouse, and then the other spouse hooked up with someone else after having been abandoned by the first cheater, but the statistics simply count both of them as having cheated?

"There are lies, damned lies and statistics." This is not to say statistics cannot help -- good, well-constructed studies that reveal the mechanics of how the numbers were arrived at and that study a large and representative sample of people can be helpful. But you didn't even cite the source of your chart, much less who conducted it, how many were studied over what period of time, and a variety of other factors that would lend legitimacy.

112 posted on 09/22/2017 8:38:00 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: rb22982

Very responsible! Hope you both live long and happily and exit within a short span of time from one another.


113 posted on 09/22/2017 8:41:37 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

Congratulations ! You managed to find another post written by someone inviting you to tell them what you think, what they should do, and how horrible they are !

Whoo hoo !

Cheers, a-hole. I appreciate the Doctorphilling that you have graciously bestowed. I’m glad you were there for those 14 years of our lives so that you could level your wisdom on us.


114 posted on 09/22/2017 8:47:12 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: nickcarraway

I guarentee I will never be cheated on by my wife.

That’s because I refuse to marry anyone.


115 posted on 09/22/2017 8:47:42 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: Celerity

I judge you. I look down upon you, since I am superior to you in every way. Your lifestyle is unacceptable to me and to all good people. Why you want to live the way you do is mindboggling to any thinking person.


116 posted on 09/22/2017 8:50:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: anton
Women cheat on their husbands for three reasons:

1. Passive aggressive behavior toward the husband;

2. Hot pants; and

3. Cognitive dissonance. (They feel like a slut so they have to act it out to overcome the discomfort from the dissonance.

Remind me to cool my girlfriends' slacks down after taking them out of the drier.

117 posted on 09/22/2017 8:52:26 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: rb22982
but according to NATIONAL statistics, women are 11x more likely to get child custody than the man is and 32x more likely to get alimony.

There is simply no way to make divorce "fair". It is an abomination start to finish. Final statistics do not reveal the circumstances that created them unless they are the result of a rigorous study process of causation. If divorcing women are 11 percent more likely to get custody, it could be that divorcing men are 89% less likely to have taken an interest in raising their chlldren, or that they have overwhelmingly brought a third party into the relationship who doesn't want the children, for all we know. If women are 32x more lilkely to get alimony, perhaps they are also 32x more likely to have reduced their work lives to take care of their children while their husbands worked, and now have no marketable skills. Numbers out of context do not and cannot tell the whole story.

I hear what you are saying; it may feel skewed, especially if a man is unfairly judged and gets the shaft; but trying to use endgame stats to explain causation doesn't work.

One of the earlier posters cited some articles about why women say they divorce vs. why men say they divorce. Among the women's top reasons was that they felt their husbands did not listen to them or hear what she is trying to tell them. Among the men's top reasons was that the divorce was a complete blindside and he had no idea anything was wrong until she hauled him into counseling. That, right on its face, demonstrates that the two parties are often playing with an entirely different deck and have not done the work to make their marriage a true partnership instead of a contract of anticipated entitlements.

118 posted on 09/22/2017 8:58:53 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: rb22982
I know one guy who sleeps with ~50 different women a year (he’s single)!

That level of promiscuity is going to create a disease vector approaching that of homosexual males, and don't think that single women haven't started abusing their bodies in the same, very unsanitary ways. It must be porn influence, I honestly don't see why women would do that. Well, I really don't understand why anybody would, but it's especially puzzling for women whose bodies are designed for penetration without going... there.

119 posted on 09/22/2017 8:59:31 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Celerity

Why thank you! And thank you for demonstrating why it took you so long to find someone to marry you.


120 posted on 09/22/2017 9:01:52 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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