Posted on 12/17/2015 7:03:30 PM PST by RatherBiased.com
The Cruz presidential campaign is now claiming that the senator's attempted amendments and statements were only designed to be so-called "poison pills," a legislative trick designed to get supporters of a bill to vote against it. That was also the line Cruz took in an interview yesterday with Fox News anchor Bret Baier.
But that does not square with the fact that weeks after the legislation failed in the House, Cruz was still talking up how he wanted to grant permanent resident status to illegal immigrants in an interview with the Texas Tribune in September:
Immigration-reform legislation from the Senate's so-called Gang of Eight passed that chamber in June and includes a 13-year path to citizenship. Cruz pushed unsuccessfully for amendments that would have, among other things, eliminated the citizenship component.Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.
"The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight," he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.
Cruz said recent polling indicated that people outside Washington support some reform, including legal status without citizenship. He said he was against naturalization because it rewarded lawbreakers and was unfair to legal immigrants. It also perpetuates illegal crossings, he added.
Besides barring citizenship while instituting some level of legalization for those here already, Cruz has proposed increasing the number of green cards awarded annually, to 1.35 million from 675,000.
(Excerpt) Read more at bold.global ...
Go to ConservativeReview.com for the truth. Rubio was anti-amnesty during his Senate campaign. He was pro amnesty as a member of the gang of eight. Now that he is in a campaign again, he wants to say he is anti amnesty. Rubio is the liar, not Cruz.
Cruz has been consistent. To derail the bad gang of eight legislation he offered a poison pill amendment. You do not advertise it as that or that undermines the point. He was exposing the hypocrisy by removing the citizenship part. Rush Limbaugh did the very same thing. He said he would support legalization if they removed voting rights for 25 years. Do you think Rush was ever pro amnesty?
See http://www.marcorubioamnestyman.com/
Also search for the many flip flops and waffling statement claimed to have been made by Trump.
See what Sessions and Lee are saying — the other Senators who offered amendments and partnered with Cruz to fight the Rubio, gang of eight amnesty.
Now move on to the disaster of a bill that RINO Ryan has agreed to.
Trump cheated on his wife and you want to accuse Cruz of dishonesty...that’s situational ethics.
Both Rubio and Cruz supported amnesty in the past. This is a fact. You need to read the piece. There are facts you haven’t seen yet.
I’m sure you have a link to go with that serving of beef.
Just more confirmation that Rubio is a lying little prick.
Hello? Can you read? Cruz did not support amnesty. Rubio voted for it. Cruz voted against it.
I am done with you. You don’t want the truth. I think you are Dan Rather or his twin.
For what purpose?
Nobody who has been paying attention to the records of Cruz and RUbio, believe that their records are anywhere near the same— It is laughable-— Rubio was a member of the gang of eight and Cruz fought this betrayal by Rubio as much as humanly possible....
It’s not a dead horse in that Cruz’s disingenuousness is unbecoming, at best. Also, it is more evidence to suggest the reason he has refused to answer on the campaign trail any questions as to what he would do about illegals here currently—until using the waffle words of saying he “doesn’t intend” to legalize them if elected president.
Enjoy wallowing in your fiction. I’m going to stay int he non-fiction section of FR.
If you’d been around as long as I have, you wouldn’t say such nonsense. But you’re still a rookie it looks like.
No, he did not.
Here is Senator Cruz’s position as of June 2013:
“This Gang of Eight bill is a disaster. It is the exact same thing we saw in 1986. The last big immigration reform was in 1986, and the federal government told the American people, we’re gonna grant amnesty for the three million people who are here illegally. And in exchange for that we’re actually gonna secure the borders. We’re gonna solve illegal immigration, and the problem is gonna go away.
“Now, we saw what happened. The amnesty happened, the borders never got secured, and now three decades later, instead of three million people, it’s 11 million people.
“11 million, 12 million. We don’t have an exact number, but it is three to four times bigger than what it was in 1986, and we’re hearing the exact same empty promises. What the Gang of Eight bill does is it grants legalization now. It takes everyone who’s here illegally and says, “You’re legal,â€Â and then just like in 1986 it promises, “sometime in the future, trust us, wink-wink, we’ll secure the border.†I don’t think the American people are that foolish. You know, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. If this bill is enacted, it will make the problem worse. If this bill is enacted, in another decade or two we’re gonna be back here not with 11 million, but with 20 million or 30 million people here illegally. This is a broken system. I think what Americans want is fix the problem, stop playing political games, actually secure the border and make a legal immigration system that works.
“Well, the Democrats want this for pure politics. Chuck Schumer was very candid in the Senate Judiciary Committee when he said, “If there is no citizenship, there can be no reform.â€Ã‚ This is all about their endeavor. They want to grant amnesty, and they hope to get a lot more Democratic voters, or they want this to be voted down and use it as a political issue in 2014 and 2016.
“On the Republican side, sadly, a lot of the support of it is political as well. You know, after 2012, all of the Washington political consultants and all the mainstream media came to Republicans and said, “You’ve got to do better with Hispanics, and the way to do better with Hispanics is to embrace amnesty.†And, look, a lot of Republicans in Washington were scared. I gotta tell you, I think that political argument is complete nonsense. If you look at the last time we enacted amnesty in 1986, the next election was 1988, the Republican share of the Hispanic vote went down. It is not the case — Hispanics are not the single-issue, monolithic voters.â€Â
I see nothing there that is incompatible with what he is saying now. And furthermore, Cruz (with a couple of others) led the fight against the bill — and put up a petition against it.
Meanwhile, here is Donald Trump’s position as of earlier this year:
(July 26)
“Now, a lot of these people are helping us, whether it’s the grapes, or whether it’s jobs, and sometimes it’s jobs, in all fairness, I love our country, but sometimes it’s jobs that a citizen of the United States doesn’t want to do. I mean, there are jobs that a lot of people don’t want to do. I want to move them out, and we’re going to move them back in.
“I’ve been giving it so much thought, you know you have a — on a humanitarian basis, you have a lot of deep thought going into this, believe me. I actually have a big heart...I mean, a lot of people don’t understand that, but the DREAMers, it’s a tough situation, we’re going to do something, and one of the things we’re going to do is expedite — when somebody’s terrific, we want them back here.
“I have to tell you: Some of these people have been here, they’ve done a good job. You know, in some cases, sadly, they’ve been living under the shadows. ... If somebody’s been outstanding, we try and work something out.â€
[The article continues] This is in line with what CNN’s Chris Moody reported Trump saying during a press conference in Chicago at the end of June. When asked what he would do about the illegal immigrants already residing in the country once the border was secured, Trump replied, “give them a path,†according to Moody.
https://soundcloud.com/glennbeck/beck-blitz-donald-trumppro-amnesty
(As of July 14)
http://liberteanow.us/2015/07/14/2601/
Trump: You have to give them a path. You have 20 million, 30 million, nobody knows what it is. It used to be 11 million. Now, today I hear it’s 11, but I don’t think it’s 11. I actually heard you probably have 30 million. You have to give them a path, and you have to make it possible for them to succeed. You have to do that.
(As of August 10 — remember all these dates on the Trump quotes are THIS YEAR)
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422351/donald-trump-immigration-amnesty-build-wall
“Asked about his immigration ideas on CNN, Trump was a mess, beginning with the old “jobs Americans won’t do†canard favored by open-borders proponents (a canard because it always leaves out the relevant qualifier: “at current wagesâ€), then suggesting that we should deport the millions of illegals who are already here only to turn around and bring them back (â€I want to move them out, and we’re going to move them back in, and let them be legalâ€). This process would include those brought here as young children, who will be deported and recycled based on the criterion of whether they are — Trump’s word — “terrific.â€Â What might constitute a federal terrificness standard remains unclear. “We’re going to do something,â€Â Trump said. “I’ve been giving it so much thought. You know you have a, on a humanitarian basis, you have a lot of deep thought going into this, believe me. I actually have a big heart.â€
Deporting some 11 million illegals who have for many years evaded deportation only to reimport them under an expedited legal immigration system, the contours of which currently are undefined, and then granting them some sort of permanent legal status is simply another variation on amnesty, and a complicated, expensive, and thick-headed version of amnesty at that. Like the proposed reform program of 2007, which would have purportedly required illegals to be present in their country of origin when applying for legal status, this isn’t just amnesty — it’s also amnesty-laundering.â€
These are pro-amnesty positions Trump took EARLIER THIS YEAR (2015)! By contrast, Ted Cruz fought the amnesty bill in the U.S. Senate two years ago.
Which seems to be supported, if not led, by Trump's people.
ohhh poor horse-— haha
Cruz is honest. Trump, OTOH...
Are you really that gullible?
And if so, shouldn’t you focus on Global Warming?
Ok we get it you are a moronic troll.
You vs Sessions, m lee, Limbaugh and m levin hmmmmmm who to believe.....
Yeah you are just a troll and a stupid one at that, back to DU moron.
Rubio did this same thing to Donald Trump earlier. Trump supporters should remember and be supporting Cruz.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rubio-hits-trump-over-immigration-flip-flop/article/2575626
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