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To: AMDG&BVMH

Good post.

People have written about the bikers, good — bad — and some probably in between.

People have written, mostly negatively, about law enforcement.

One thing left out is the community of greater Waco, TX. Around 250,000 people that hired law enforcement, to keep law & order.

Motorcycle criminals disrupt order. Assume there were 200 bikers, and assume there were 160 of them that are generally law abiding.

If I lived in Waco, I would tell the 160 to take their get-together someplace else. And I would expect my police force to watch the bikers, even to suggest they take their get-together someplace else.

Law enforcement is not the reason for the ongoing feud between Banditos and Cossacks. The reason is the biker culture, which Waco residents want to be kept away from them.

One reason good guys ride with the bad guys, is for vicarious thrills. It is sort of measured risk taking. An assumption they can go out for a ride that day, and not have a horrible experience simply because they didn’t stay well clear of the bad guys.

I believe the high bail is the way law enforcement and the judicial system in Texas sends a message to the good guys; think twice next time, before you risk the safety of innocents in our jurisdiction.

Murder and mayhem are part of outlaw biker culture. Why a truly law abiding motorcycle enthusiast would want any association with the bad guys escapes me.

Why anybody would take the side of a handful of bad guys, versus the law abiding people of the community and their law enforcement officials, escapes me.

I have seen no evidence of wrongdoing by law enforcement, just anti-cop BS. The kind of thing small time conspiracy theory people would want to spread, for their books and websites.

Meanwhile the cops go out in the REAL WORLD and put themselves in REAL DANGER, so the grownup children could safely bang away on their keyboards.

The same people that would praise a cop for risking his safety to control an inner city riot, will deride cops for risking his safety to control a Waco Texas criminal biker confab.


528 posted on 05/25/2015 10:38:11 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker; AMDG&BVMH; TexasGator
Excerpt:

Without law we have anarchy, we have the devil stalking the earth, picking us off one by one, the weak and strong alike. We are all vulnerable at times. It is not only justice; in the end it is survival itself.

Without law, who will protect the mother and child who are tomorrow's strength? Who will protect the geniuses of the mind, the inventor, the artist who enriches the world but has not the power of money or physical ability to defend himself? Who will protect the wise who are old, and might fall victim to the powerful and foolish?

Indeed who will protect the strong from themselves?

— “Farriers’ Lane” by Anne Perry

536 posted on 05/25/2015 10:48:07 AM PDT by donna (It is time for Americans to repent.)
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To: truth_seeker

“Why a truly law abiding motorcycle enthusiast would want any association with the bad guys escapes me.”

Each club has to pay dues to the ‘Confederation’. All the confederations are run by the ‘club’ in charge.

All the ‘clubs’ in charge just happen to have names like:

Hell’s Angels
Outlaws
Mongols

The good bikers have to pay extortion money just to ride and show their colors.

I keep having the feeling here that the dudes here are either ashamed to admit it or they are benefiting from the arrangement.


537 posted on 05/25/2015 10:51:31 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: truth_seeker
I believe the high bail is the way law enforcement and the judicial system in Texas sends a message to the good guys; think twice next time, before you risk the safety of innocents in our jurisdiction.

Excellent point, and one I had not considered. Kudos.

541 posted on 05/25/2015 10:59:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America has less than a year left.)
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To: truth_seeker

Great big Truth Seeking BUMP! !

“Law enforcement is not the reason for the ongoing feud between Banditos and Cossacks. The reason is the biker culture . . . “ and their criminal enterprises . . .

“Law enforcement” is also not the reason that law enforcement has to up the ante to combat criminal gangs that have upped the ante to the extent of treason — protecting Mexican cartels on our sacred homeland.

Those who support the myth of criminal-induced chaos on our sacred soil, as being a type of “freedom”, are giving succor to the enemy of our great Country and it’s true freedom-loving citizens, who will bleed for true freedom, but draw the line at criminal enterprises.

Servus!


602 posted on 05/25/2015 1:08:43 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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