Leaked Report Profiles Military, Police Members of Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs

The Intercept ^ | 5/22/2015 | Jana Winter and Jordan Smith

[PapaBear3625]

Nuclear power plant technicians, senior military officers, FBI contractors and an employee of “a highly-secretive Department of Defense agency” with a Top Secret clearance. Those are just a few of the more than 100 people with sensitive military and government connections that law enforcement is tracking because they are linked to “outlaw motorcycle gangs.”

A year before the deadly Texas shootout that killed nine people on May 17, a lengthy report by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives detailed the involvement of U.S. military personnel and government employees in outlaw motorcycle gangs, or OMGs. A copy of the report was obtained by The Intercept.

The report lays out, in almost obsessive detail, the extent to which OMG members are represented in nearly every part of the military, and in federal and local government, from police and fire departments to state utility agencies. Specific examples from the report include dozens of Defense Department contractors with Secret or Top Secret clearances; multiple FBI contractors; radiological technicians with security clearances; U.S. Department of Homeland Security employees; Army, Navy and Air Force active-duty personnel, including from the special operations force community; and police officers.

[don-o]

You seem to have a thing for Laz.

Shall I add you to his fanboy / fangirl list?

[TexasGator]

“You’ve previously said if someone posts it they “own it.””

I inadvertently posted it to Laz. He accepted my explanation. Ergo, the person I posted to has agreed that I don’t own it as a post to him.

I own the words which I wrote to the identified person.

[AMDG&BVMH]

WAIT A MINUTE! WHY should I have to appreciate NOT BEING CALLED NAMES on FR! OF ALL PLACES!!!

[TexasGator]

“WAIT A MINUTE! WHY should I have to appreciate NOT BEING CALLED NAMES on FR! OF ALL PLACES!!!”

You must pay respect to the dominant gang.

http://lifestylerider.com/html/body_outlaw_clubs_101.html

[Lazamataz]

Something to note is that he called the imprisoned bikers 'sub-human' even before conviction, which defies his (rather lame) point that somehow people become sub-human after conviction of crimes.

I do not expect him to understand the words I just typed, and/or I do expect him to be coy and/or cute, and still attempt to disrupt the thread... of course.

This is intended for you, don-o, as further backing and ammunition that this troll, Texas Gator, is indeed of an extremely fascist bent.

[Lazamataz]

You seem to have a thing for Laz.

Just part of the online Delphi technique.

[AMDG&BVMH]

“You must pay respect to the dominant gang.”

OK I guess I get it. But I do not accept it. FR of all places, should not call names. Logic, sources, OK I can get that! Yet still on FR of all places, I have had to beg to not be disparaged personally, to not be called names because of the logic and reasoning of my posts.

OK if there is any FReeper out there who wants to call me names, to disparage me as a person (and after all you do not know me any more than I know you) SO BE IT because I WILL NOT BE INTIMIDATED by gang tactics. I, as well as FR and you, are far better than that! Thanks for pointing it out!

And hey all you bikers who outnumber the gangsters apparently 99% to 1%, can’t you just cut the ties to the gangsters and ride free and legal? And if not, why not? AND don’t flame me, because that would only show your cowardice. I am just a side-line observer on this dispute, but I am a flag waving freedom loving supporter of the Constitution of These United States and if you disparage me, you disparage far more then me. SERVUS!

[AMDG&BVMH]

“Delphi technique”

Please inform how the Delphi Technique advances your argument, because as a student of Delphi and other analytical techniques, I do not see the connection. Respectfully asking.

[wardaddy]

I think that’s why he’s here Laz

[AMDG&BVMH]

for your amusement? Surely you delude yourselves.

[wardaddy]

To amuse himself

[FreetheSouth!]

Thanks for the ping, PapaBear! I was out of pocket since Thur. in Gulfport at the Blowout with hundreds of my Red and Gold family and thousands of other bikers. And I’ve not heard that we killed anybody, stabbed anybody, raped anybody, robbed anybody. We did hold a memorial for ALL those killed at Waco.

[AMDG&BVMH]

I am not amused.

[Lazamataz]

There is a good article about the misuse of the Delphi technique here: http://www.vlrc.org/articles/110.html

[Lazamataz]

One of the things that makes me good at uncovering trolls is that I actually enjoy it. Unfortunately, I don’t have the proper time to invest in it at the moment. :)

[AMDG&BVMH]

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/22/atf-report-warned-military-government-membership-outlaw-motorcycle-gangs/
is what came up when I clicked on your link.

[AMDG&BVMH]

Well, name calling is the last defense of the Left and those bereft of any other logical reasoned response. Enjoy your time off from troll chasing. I assure you the world will survive.

[PapaBear3625]

You’re welcome!

[Lazamataz]

You have something wrong with your computer, or perhaps there are other things going on. The link succeeded for me.

[Lazamataz]

Well, name calling is the last defense of the Left and those bereft of any other logical reasoned response.

I don't care. Trolls aren't here to 'reason'.

Enjoy your time off from troll chasing. I assure you the world will survive.

You cannot say that with absolute certainty.