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The South did not trust Mr. Lincoln. They thought him overly ambitious, the kind that absolute power would corrupt absolutely - the kind that would raise an army, invade soverign states on a pretext, suspend the habius corpus, imprision political foes, ignore the supreme court, suppress newspapers, fight a total war on civilians, and kill hundreds of thousands. Of course, what did the South know?

It's the same thing over and over again. Are you finally going to acknowledge that Jefferson Davis and his team were "government guys" and nation builders who weren't above raising an army, invading neighboring states (Kentucky, Maryland), suspending habeus corpus, imprisoning political foes, seizing and destroying property, waging war on civilians, carrying free people off to slavery, and killing hundreds of thousands?

They were what? Hobbits? Little harmless elves? They were a government. They had all of the aggressive and repressive tendencies and drives you see in other governments and then some. A lot of Southerners (admittedly and sadly too few) and most other Americans didn't trust them any more than they trusted pro-Union politicians.

Compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges, one government to another government. Don't assume it was a matter of libertarian anti-government rebels crushed by the state. There were two governments involved and "tyranny" -- if that's what it was -- wasn't unique to the US government.

[jeffersondem]

When I point out the shortcomings of Mr. Lincoln, why do you wish to talk about something else? To paraphase a federal judge, of all things, on another matter: “It is no answer to a complaint of injustice to say others have committed similar acts of injustice - each is liable to separate actions and each is to be restrained.”

In my post I wasn't trying to inflame your anti-Southern emotions - you have rehearsed your spiel far too many times already. I have never heard it suggested Jefferson Davis was a libertarian; not sure what you are writing about there unless it is a straw-man argument. Davis and the South got cross-treaded with one maxim: be careful who you choose as enemies - you will become just like them. To an extent they did, but not to the level of depravity of the (Lincoln approved) final solution of Sherman.

[central_va]

It's the same thing over and over again. Are you finally going to acknowledge that Jefferson Davis and his team were "government guys" and nation builders who weren't above raising an army, invading neighboring states (Kentucky, Maryland), suspending habeus corpus, imprisoning political foes, seizing and destroying property, waging war on civilians, carrying free people off to slavery, and killing hundreds of thousands?

Child you have a vivid imagination.