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To: cloudmountain
The whip was for blasphemy. This isn't about blaspheming.

You're correct. It's about the BLM and the media lying about "grazing fees".

You understand that in order to pay the grazing fees to the BLM, Bundy must sign the contract, don't you?

Once he signs the contract, he's toast.

It's as if the bank came to you with revised mortgage papers with a clause specifying your husband as a sexual party favor for all the male bank staff.

You can't pay on your mortgage till you sign the revised mortgage papers.

What, are you a deadbeat? How come you won't sign the papers?

I call it "The Big BLM Lie".

What would YOU call it, cloudmountain?

168 posted on 04/23/2014 6:58:49 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

Actually, Bundy refused to sign the lease and pay the money because he said the federal government did not own the land. He wrote multiple letters to the BLM to that effect in 1993. For example, “Bundy responded by sending a Constructive Notice and Order to Stop, in which he again questioned the United States’ authority to manage the Allotment. See Exhibit 28 to #11.”

However, when I talk to people about this, I point out that a government that prevents Arizona law enforcement from helping arrest illegal immigrants, and that prosecutes the Maricopa sheriff for trying to slow illegal immigration, has no business using federal SWAT teams to go after trespassing cows! Who is trespassing more - a foreign citizen who comes to the US illegally, or a cow eating grass it hasn’t paid for? And why do alphabet agencies like the BLM need their own SWAT teams? Why not just put a lien against the cattle?

I also argue that a government which refuses to obey its own laws, such as repeatedly encouraging companies to violate Obama’s own healthcare law, has no business accusing ANYONE of disrespecting the rule of law!

We then can talk about the 20+ year policy of turning public lands into “no humans land”, and by the time we finish, most folks fully understand Bundy’s frustration and how angry people are.


171 posted on 04/23/2014 7:14:52 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: kiryandil
What would YOU call it, cloudmountain?

I would call it a catastrophe, him, his family, relatives and friends--one that he might have avoided a l-o-n-g time ago. These problems don't suddenly appear one day out of the blue. You know that.

I hope he lawyers up fast and good. I would sent him a check TODAY for said attorney: $1000.00 bucks if he needed it. You read it kiry. He's got that dough from me if he needs it.

I am willing to put my money where my mouth is, just to help him out.

Too bad he didn't lawyer up before to prevent this.

You can ask Jim if I donate. I do and will again.

183 posted on 04/23/2014 3:29:55 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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